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HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« on: March 25, 2009, 08:34:19 pm »
My younger brother had some guys taking his customers today, so rightly he approached them and asked to see their licenses, they didnt have them and promptly phoned the BOSS who came along and an altercation took place, my brother has a license and has every legal right to be there, these guys are unlicensed and in my opinion have no right to be there at all, even after a lecture from doug on the phone ( i gave my bro his number ) the BOSS was unweilding in his position that its unfair to ask all his guys ( around 40 of them ) to have a license each, when my brother clearly stated the facts as described by doug, they started to threaten him with violence, ie will cut your ladders in half while you are up them/ watch your back from now on etc, i was hoping that the council would have been more proactive in my brothers plight, however it seems they couldnt care less, just as helpful as the police were, so why are we paying for these licences?

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2009, 08:42:27 pm »
report threats of violence to the police straight away, but if there wasn't a licencing system, what would they have been doing wrong before threats came into it.

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2009, 08:49:26 pm »
before the license came into effect?....nothing whatsover.......which begs the question, why should i pay for these license/s?..its mad to have a LEGAL requirement that is not or wont be ENFORCED. ???

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2009, 08:49:43 pm »
what would they have been doing wrong before treats came into it.

Treats? These guys giving out candy now? :)

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2009, 08:55:15 pm »
sorry thats been done to death lately  ;)

tomy jackson

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2009, 09:01:17 pm »
its not good is it the oldbill are to busy booking peps , 6 copers  for no sit belts it suks dont it ??? ??? ???

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 09:18:56 pm »
If he calls the police I am sure they wont be to busy call the council and report them to the tax office, and they will soon regret it.

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2009, 09:21:59 pm »
he did all that, the police said they need evidence of threats and the council said to put a complaint in and they will look into it >:(

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2009, 09:33:57 pm »
report them to the tax office as benit cheats. If they aint got a licence, some might be, they will then get investigated.

thye will soon move if there pockets aren't being lined.

tomy jackson

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2009, 09:48:19 pm »
to do that you nea d much moor info

jouk45

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Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 09:57:19 pm »
 tel him to set his mobile on recording, this way he will have some proof if they do this again

DASERVICES

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 09:57:32 pm »
Graeme,

I have sent in an official complaint and have found out who they are. Glasgow based. They are friends with an ex pal of yours Greg Av.

There were some complications which I predicted but is a pain to you guys but solid evidence for me to take to ACPOS. I've come to that stage of fed up of hearing it's not my job so enough is enough and the seniors will sort it out.

Official complaint sent they should cease with trading in the area.!!!!

Speak to you tomorrow.

This is just the tip of the iceburg and this is happening everywhere so now we have threatened to sue Councils for lost earnings.

Cheers

Doug

DASERVICES

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 10:00:21 pm »
Have to say in defence of the Police when I rang them up they were there pretty quick. Pitty the firm ran off. The Licensing Officer was the other side of Lanark so could not get there in time.

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 10:00:40 pm »
to do that you nea d much moor info

yep, and therin lies the whole problem with the licence/license in the 1st place, IF it is deemed a LEGAL requirement then why are the LAW enforcers (councils/police) not ENFORCING the license?.........if i drove my car while under the influence, the police or dvla wouldnt be asking for more information would they, or if i attempted to fly a learjet without a pilots licence the civil avaition authority would not be saying we need more info......is it because we are ONLY window cleaners? ???


i wonder 8)

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

  • Posts: 1093
Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 10:05:30 pm »
Graeme,

I have sent in an official complaint and have found out who they are. Glasgow based. They are friends with an ex pal of yours Greg Av.

There were some complications which I predicted but is a pain to you guys but solid evidence for me to take to ACPOS. I've come to that stage of fed up of hearing it's not my job so enough is enough and the seniors will sort it out.

Official complaint sent they should cease with trading in the area.!!!!

Speak to you tomorrow.

This is just the tip of the iceburg and this is happening everywhere so now we have threatened to sue Councils for lost earnings.

Cheers

Doug

Thanks for all the help you gave to kenny today doug, he is a good lad and only trying to make a living and as you know he holds the whole licensing system in very high regard ( after a bit of persuasion from me lol), and he is determined that IF he loses work to a rival it will be to a LICENSED rival ;)

Big Dave @ CWC

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Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2009, 11:35:20 pm »
License, since when did we need a license?

no one told me that n i've been going four years now :o

mci services

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 11:49:31 pm »
License, since when did we need a license?

no one told me that n i've been going four years now :o
you dont mate your in england its a scottish law

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2009, 06:04:16 am »
I would have thought, if they don’t have a licence the police can have them for trading without a licence, or certainty force them to get one. They seem real nice, I wonder if they have a criminal background. If they where licensed and threatened you, its game over, if you can prove it.

If I lost a bit of money to someone like this, I would be happy to make a few investments to get the info I needed.

Londoner

Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2009, 07:41:44 am »
The police could do a lot of things if they wanted to but "do nothing" is so much easier.

JSMC

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Re: threats of violence by unlicensed window cleaners
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2009, 11:38:14 am »
it needs to be enforced pronto. I know of squads who come from glasgow to my mums area and work.

we don't know them from adam and could be anyone literally.