[dd]

I get holes in t-shirts from cold pure water. As an experiment put 1 scrim in pure water and 1 in ordinary water to soak for a few hours and compare results.

I had to stop using pure water to wash scrims because they quicly developed holes. Does not have this effect on micro-fibre cloths though.

I have been cold wfp 3 years and may switch to hot when I change my van, but I don't want to bury my head in the sand as some prefer to, about the potential downside of both hot and cold wfp.

[martindrz400]

what happens in areas with a low tds scotland , cormall lake district and parts of wales and all of cyrprus and greek isles (002)  does their clothes full to bits when being washed i dont think so

[dd]

If you do not believe me try hand washing a cotton t-shirt a couple of times in pure water and you won't want to wear it again. Or try soaking a scrim for a few hours in a bucket of pure water. THEN post a reply. My observatuions are based on 3 years wfp.

Pure water is not the same as rain water. As I understand it purified water has a lower hydrogen content but will reabsorb hydrogen.

Rain water falls several thousand feet so has plenty of chance to reabsorb hydrogen. Also it is formed by water vapour collecting around dust particles in the atmosphere so cannot be compared to pure water.

[clevs]

Broadex have alot of money to invest into what ever they see to be the best cleaning, so to all the peeps who say they dont promote hot water cleaning coz they dont sell, just take a min to think why they dont, coz if they wanted to, they very well could.  They dont because of reasons stated.... But thats just my logic.... And I also brought a system from them lol.....

[williamx]

So if Pure Water is aggresive when cold and we now know that when you heat up water it becomes more aggresive then it only logical that Hot Pure Water will be more aggressive than Cold Pure Water, and something this aggresive could cause problems on some materals.

Ok you seem to think that Pure water is no diferent than tap water, as an experiment try drinking the stuff, it won't affect you at all as its ONLY water.

 
No, not necessarily, just because its more aggressive than something doesnt mean its aggressive ENOUGH to start eating t-shirts and rotting window-sills, its water for gods sake, you drink it; your body is 87% water.

If thats the case why hasnt my kettle, shower, bath, washing-machine, swimmingpool all fallen apart at the joints? Why do my clothes come out the washing machine with no holes in them?

[matt]

If you do not believe me try hand washing a cotton t-shirt a couple of times in pure water and you won't want to wear it again. Or try soaking a scrim for a few hours in a bucket of pure water. THEN post a reply. My observatuions are based on 3 years wfp.

Pure water is not the same as rain water. As I understand it purified water has a lower hydrogen content but will reabsorb hydrogen.

Rain water falls several thousand feet so has plenty of chance to reabsorb hydrogen. Also it is formed by water vapour collecting around dust particles in the atmosphere so cannot be compared to pure water.

ive used pure water for trad downstairs for over 5 years, i still have the same scrims, i now use micro fibre clothes and i can honestly say i havent noticed the water eating away at them

[ftp]

Quick google found this:

 Non-laboratory uses
Distilled or deionized water are commonly used to top up lead acid batteries used in cars and trucks. The presence of foreign ions commonly found in tap water will cause a drastic reduction in an automobile's battery lifespan.

Distilled or deionized water is preferable to tap water for use in automotive cooling systems. The minerals and ions typically found in tap water can be corrosive to internal engine components, and can cause a more rapid depletion of the anti-corrosion additives found in most antifreeze formulations. Distilled or deionized water is especially important in automotive hybrid system component cooling systems, mixed with hybrid system coolant, to prevent corrosion and/or electrolysis of hybrid components.

Using distilled water in steam irons for pressing clothes, as well as other appliances such as humidifiers and cigar humidors which boil water, can reduce mineral scale build-up and help the appliance last longer.

So rather the opposite regarding corrosive properties?

Then another search found this:

http://www.finishing.com/110/17.shtml     a familiar name popped up on there too.

[Oakley Windows]

Ok you seem to think that Pure water is no diferent than tap water, as an experiment try drinking the stuff, it won't affect you at all as its ONLY water.

We're not talking about drinking it, we're talking about the effects (well, non-effects actually) of WFP water on our customers property and any possible liabilities from that.

[Nathanael Jones]

I drink pure water when I'm out working,... even made a cuppa from the hot stuff!!

I don't doubt that it is more acidic,.. but I seriously doubt the difference is enough to cause damage to windows or frames.

[Neil Williams]

Let me throw something else into the equation: The Resin
there are different types of resin.
In the last couple of years FOOD GRADE RESINS have come to be more common. I'm assured by ROMan literature that being food grade means it's safe to drink. I even use it for my tropical fish and I haven't seen them complaining.
But I wouldn't risk it with non food graded resin,

[mikethechamois]

i cant believe people are still arguing against hot wfp being more acidic than cold

next they will tell us the world really is flat afterall

the question is not if hot wfp is acidic..........................its how acidic

and wether its enough to cause the damage that its claimed it could do

i dont want sueing in 10 yrs for damage to frames so im considering a disclaimer in my terms and conditions claiming its still relatively new techonology and the long term effects are still unknown , so far as im aware no damage is caused by this systemand im using in good faith,...............or words to that effect

i will need to give to a solicitor for the corect legalese

[[GQC] Tim]

I drink pure water when I'm out working,... even made a cuppa from the hot stuff!!

I don't doubt that it is more acidic,.. but I seriously doubt the difference is enough to cause damage to windows or frames.

Dude, that is actually dangerous, and you could really have bad health consequences from it in the long run (not kidding)

Water purifying companies purify the water to the highest degree, but put minerals and nutrients back in the water, because the purified water is so pure, it actually leaches your body from nutrients. Saw it on a video on water management company.

[trevor perry]

brodex must of changed their minds as in the feb issue of cleaning and maintenance magazine it states brodex are introducing its water heater for water fed pole systems which will enable every water fed pole user to easily enable their system to produce a continuous supply of hot water when required, they are also releasing a new brush head.

[mikethechamois]

your right trevor

i checked this out with brodex last week and they are re introducing hot wfp to their range, which makes a total nonsence of their claims

i think its a good thing that the water is a mild acid as its going to improve its cleaning properties and make short work of bird lime etc

i just dont want to be sued

im still waiting for an explanation from their technical dept : : :

[tomy jackson]

wow 

[jsm]

I drink pure water when I'm out working,... even made a cuppa from the hot stuff!!

I don't doubt that it is more acidic,.. but I seriously doubt the difference is enough to cause damage to windows or frames.

Dude, that is actually dangerous, and you could really have bad health consequences from it in the long run (not kidding)

Water purifying companies purify the water to the highest degree, but put minerals and nutrients back in the water, because the purified water is so pure, it actually leaches your body from nutrients. Saw it on a video on water management company.

I had a customer who had a ro under his sink for drinking - after a while drinking the stuff he said he felt like S...t !! so may be some truth in that as we need the old nutrients and stuff.

[Niall McAllister]

what happens in areas with a low tds scotland , cormall lake district and parts of wales and all of cyrprus and greek isles (002)  does their clothes full to bits when being washed i dont think so

you've not seen how my wife does the washing then