[DASERVICES]

The fact will be in the readings, has anyone tested their PH after hot!!!!! If they have then they will know how acidic their water is?

[Dave Turley]

MAN, THAT WOULD HURT! LOL

i've never got a hole in my workwear in over 3 years wfp, even with hot!

[ftp]

Probably acid rain. 

[mikethechamois]

dougs right someone with hot wfp should check the ph and find out how acidic it actually is

and then find out what the threshold is before it starts damaging frames

i would put  money on the acidity being too weak to cause any real damage

[Moderator David@stives]

What about all the other points, they all seem valid to me

[NWH]

Hot is best,i can see some people trying to get out of spending money by looking for bad points about hot.Try hot water on PVC windows and then go back to cold water,i can`t see any hot user doing that.

[Ian Rochester]

We have a Thermopure system and a cold water system, Thermopure is leaps and bounds better than cold water cleaning, bird poop comes off with one pass of the brush.

Brodex did a promotion before Christmas, have a free try out of our system and we'll give you a free Prolong Pole worth £252 for free.

Had the try out, had our Thermopure van there as well, still waiting for my free pole!  Wouldn't care but we have bought several poles off Patrick at Brodex in the past, including two 56 ft poles.

[fatboy slim]

There are a hew muppets on here !

All you do is slag people off..especially Brodex.

I have 3 systems..all cold water.

My first system is an Ionic.

Then I bought a Brodex system, and last year i bought another Brodex system...
Work that one out !

Brodex offered me a hot water system years ago.....NO THANKS

But what would I know....I've only been in the cleaning game for 24 years.
I have also studied industrial chemistry.

Reading some of your posts made me angry at first , now I just laugh!

Some of you are clearly ignorant to the FACTS.

   

[trevor perry]

There are a hew muppets on here !

All you do is slag people off..especially Brodex.

I have 3 systems..all cold water.

My first system is an Ionic.

Then I bought a Brodex system, and last year i bought another Brodex system...
Work that one out !

Brodex offered me a hot water system years ago.....NO THANKS

But what would I know....I've only been in the cleaning game for 24 years.
I have also studied industrial chemistry.

Reading some of your posts made me angry at first , now I just laugh!

Some of you are clearly ignorant to the FACTS.

   

you must be one of the fortunate ones ,i dont own a brodex system but to be fair they do look well built but when it comes to their poles and customer service then the only thing i can say about the service i have had from them is appalling,.

[kevin James]

There are a hew muppets on here !

All you do is slag people off..especially Brodex.

I have 3 systems..all cold water.

My first system is an Ionic.

Then I bought a Brodex system, and last year i bought another Brodex system...
Work that one out !

Your post added no increase in knowledge. It just insulted people. What qualification do you attain with your studies?

Kevin.

Brodex offered me a hot water system years ago.....NO THANKS

But what would I know....I've only been in the cleaning game for 24 years.
I have also studied industrial chemistry.

Reading some of your posts made me angry at first , now I just laugh!

Some of you are clearly ignorant to the FACTS.

   

[williamx]

Holes in T shirts! Just imagine the damage if you got pure water in your eyes.  :

I have also had holes in tee shirts, I have also noticed that it rusts metal faster, and when some of the water drops from the upstairs into my eyes, it can be painful.

As for using hot pure water that causes the problems that Brodex has stated, well on some windows it is possible, but on other windows, hot water is a better way to clean with.

[Oakley Windows]

How long does it stay hot for?

Any liquid when in droplet formation will loose any stored heat in seconds. Theres so much surface area exposed to the air with a droplet that the heat will just pass out of the water almost immediately, thus returning the water pH to a normal level.

Bit different if something was immersed in a vat of warm water, it'd be exposed to a liquid at a lower pH for a considerable period of time.

I dont think the acid line is going to stick somehow, those who use hot might get through seals/pumps etc a tad quicker than cold WFPers but thats all.

Matt

[macmac]

Personaly, I don't think hot wfp will do any more damage than cold in the real world.

Listen to some & you'd be forgiven for thinking you were cleaning windows with acid!! : :

I think it's boring, companies will always promote what's in their best interests, it's business!!

Tony

[mikethechamois]

fat boy slim

i thought you were a singer and music producer..................things not going too well then.........................never mind ..........welcome to the muppet show

i thought the whole point of this thread is that brodex dont offer hot wfp as its too acidic and may cause damage

but you claim they offered you one years ago

[macmac]

i thought the whole point of this thread is that brodex dont offer hot wfp as its too acidic and may cause damage
 

Yeah, ironic realy. They'll happily sell you a pole that will do you more damage

Tony

[fatboy slim]

fat boy slim

i thought you were a singer and music producer..................things not going too well then.........................never mind ..........welcome to the muppet show

i thought the whole point of this thread is that brodex dont offer hot wfp as its too acidic and may cause damage

but you claim they offered you one years ago

Indeed they did, and if you have seen their new brochure, they will be bringing one out shortly.

As far as cystomer service.....A million times better than our Wiltshire "friends" service

[tomy jackson]

hot hot all the way for me it dus a beter job then cold

[alanwilson]

I've never  had a problem with brodex customer service - although I've never had much need to come back to them about anything, poles are really well made and seem to last an eternity.

Our first 25ft carbon (ecolite or something) is still going (although could do with being changed soon) after about 4 years.  I use it every day for nearly everything too.

[matt]

As far as cystomer service.....A million times better than our Wiltshire "friends" service

welcome to the window cleaners Rebel Alliance

the only criteria of joining us fight the dark side is posting lines like that

 

[Clive McDonald]

Isn't it more likely that you made a study of industrial language? Chemistry is quite a different subject, and if you had studied it  you would know that;

The only relevant chemistry point is that carbon dioxide dissolves more easily in hot water to make very weak carbonic acid.

Interesting that a company that thinks hot is no better than bird lime, should be launching it's own hot system.