[williamx]

Birmingham and The West Midlands

[mikethechamois]

depends on wether they own the vehicle or not,

they can sub to the taxi firm for the switch or they can hire the vehicle and switch and supply labour ony

after about 6 months continious work they  are deemed to be an employee

there are all kinds of ways around this, providing your services as a consultant is one of them, regular change of employer is another

the sevice industry is the hardest to prove self employment in but wc is one of the easist if you have a round as you tick all the boxes for self employment....................... providing its your round, if its someone elses round you are employed by them to clean the windows for their customers using their equipment

so the way round it is

to franchise'

rent the work only

have them as self employed subbies  but thers a very fine line between subbies and employees, the subbies will have to tick the selfemployment boxes for their other work

a lot of people get away with subbing parts of their round and and supplying the van to do it but the subbie genarally supplies own tools , fuel etc and if he loses a customer its his loss , he wont still get paid for not doing them, so he carries the risk if work drops , so he still ticks some of the boxes

its when you cant tick any of the boxes you lose your self empoymet status and become an employee

[mp3_foci]

i may have a bit of interest, but theres a lot to think about from both parties and a lot more information needed.
feel free to email me so we can chat about it.

[bluez]

If you supply everything then it is likely that they will be considered employees as opposed to selfemployed

Private Hire Drivers work only for 1 company yet they are self employed.

Not entirely sure about the uk law on this but over here (ROI ) to be considered a contractor there can not be a master servant relationship, you must supply the tools and equipment of your trade and you would normally be expected to be available for work from other sources.

A franchise agreement tends to sell the equipment and vehicles in the normal set up which makes it a bit different.

Private hire drivers like chineese and pizza delivery drivers may operate like you say but that does not make them compliant with the law. If I worked for revenue it would take a serious effort to convince me that a guy who has his vehicle, tools, work and insurance supplied to him is anything other than an employee and that the structure was designed to avoid NI , holiday pay and tax.

Why dont you sell the equipment and vhicle to the operator for a nominal fee say £1 with final payment of £20,000.00 or return of goods and work. That way you will have a legal agreement that can be enforced through the courts if the operator steals your work and you are seen to have allready sold the bits necessary to make it a real contractor arangement. 

Dont know if that is legal but it sounds ok to me .
 

[williamx]

I have spoken to my solicitor and she is checking the legal status of this and a few other things.

I also have a meeting with my accountant tommorrow, so I should hopefully have some of the answers that I need.

If everything goes to plan then I will start to advertise these positions on some of the other forums asap.