[BRETT]

how do you  wfp guys who dont still carry ladders  deal with flat roofs below windows if they stick out to far to be able to get the proper angle with the brush to clean properley.

[Slash]

Thats why I always carry ladders.

[Mike 108]

You still need ladders.  Sometimes, they make life easier.

[williamx]

It depends, on most of these types of property you can access the window from the side, failing that I can use my sl2 pole which can reach 60', I then attack the window, while being half way up their garden.

I also have a workbox that also can be used as a small step, it raises me up about a foot off the ground which sometimes is all you need.

Failing all of these methods, I just leave the window and don't charge them for it.

[Pristine Clean]

Don't you think that leaving a window, and not charging for it... is a bit sad!

I use WFP and traditinal. There are times when tradition will be the only way.

I would never leave a window as the customer will eventually see it, even thou you explain it to them the reason why its not done.

Get a ladder, mop and  a squegee! Do them all and be a cut above the rest!


Dave

[seandyer2003]

the flat roof thing is a worry for me as i have ALOT of properties with these, have thought about maybe having a lad with me to do bottoms trad, and he could pop up ladder to do flat roof windows, otherwise it means putting pole down , getting ladders and trad gear ... bit of a time waster

[ftp]

Are you all cleaning conservatories without ladders too?
I started out without ladders and even have ladderless windowcleaning as part of my signage. However after a couple of months i had to get a set of stepladders for conservatories, then a ladder for gate hopping and now ladders for gutter repairs. It's very difficult to be totally without ladders. Oh and some lightweight steps for insides too.  :

[dmlservices]

Don't you think that leaving a window, and not charging for it... is a bit sad!

I use WFP and traditinal. There are times when tradition will be the only way.

I would never leave a window as the customer will eventually see it, even thou you explain it to them the reason why its not done.

Get a ladder, mop and  a squegee! Do them all and be a cut above the rest!

thats what i always do .
flat roof windows always get done trad , it is quicker,
thats why ladders are always on my van ,
then again i was trad for15 years.
i see loads of wfp cleaners , climbing ladders to  access windows , then clean them using pole   ??,
but many are newbies, and would not have a clue hoe to clean trad 

daz



Dave

[the gedi]

check your insurance you might find your not covered to walk on a flat roof , so inform house owner , or leave window unless you can use wfp

[Nathanael Jones]

I find 99% of windows above flat roofs can be reached if you have a lightweight pole that's long enough,.. it might be at an awkward angle,. but it beats ladders.

[NWH]

I find 99% of windows above flat roofs can be reached if you have a lightweight pole that's long enough,.. it might be at an awkward angle,. but it beats ladders.

So do i but i`m considering getting 1 of those telescopic ladders just for the odd flat roof with windows that can`t be done from the ground.

[Peter Fogwill]

how do you  wfp guys who dont still carry ladders  deal with flat roofs below windows if they stick out to far to be able to get the proper angle with the brush to clean properley.

Like someone suggested the middle of the garden, and also change the angle on the brush so that it is the right angle.

Peter

[NWH]

My new year resolution is to be 100% ladderless lol.

[edd]

or if you like us still carry a pointer use that or stand on it for a few steps just enough to reach

[karygate]

to deal with ones like this i carry a multi ladder . far safer and works well.

[Ian Lancaster]

Failing all of these methods, I just leave the window and don't charge them for it.

We pick up lots of work because the existing window cleaner can't reach the odd window.

If you're trad, then it's reasonable to be unable to do windows above conservatories etc, but if you're WFP it's not reasonable to leave a window just because it's over a flat roof.

Part of our selling jargon is:  "If we can see it, we can clean it"

I don't think "Unless it's over a flat roof" would go down very well :

[supernova77]

I carry a ladder and just use it to gain access to flat roofs.

It seems a bit silly to miss a window just because it's above a flat roof!

Andy

[williamx]

Failing all of these methods, I just leave the window and don't charge them for it.

We pick up lots of work because the existing window cleaner can't reach the odd window.

If you're trad, then it's reasonable to be unable to do windows above conservatories etc, but if you're WFP it's not reasonable to leave a window just because it's over a flat roof.

Part of our selling jargon is:  "If we can see it, we can clean it"

I don't think "Unless it's over a flat roof" would go down very well :

I have not come across one that I cannot reach with my pole yet, but there got to one that is just not possible.

I am looking forward to that day with glee

[trike]

i carry a teloscopic[spelt wrong] ladder

[dmlservices]

or if you like us still carry a pointer use that or stand on it for a few steps just enough to reach

i do that as well

always carry 2 8ft a frames on van ,

also very handy to get over the odd locked gate

daz