[Oakley Windows]

Your welcome, I needed to get something organised. Just set up a DD with Macmillan too, thanks for encouraging me.

Like I said my Mum died last year, very very suddenly, 3 days from diagnosis to dying. Unbelievable. We sat with her on the Sunday and had lunch with her, unknowing there was anyting dramatically wrong with her. She had a scan on the Monday, she was told her results on the Wednesday morning and died at home with me and my two sisters with her on the Friday evening.



My thoughts are with you Ian and the rest of your family, stay strong.

[Moderator David@stives]

Well done Matt

My mother also died a couple of years ago of liver cancer , she was aged just 56, such a waste of life.

[M.Acorn]

That was confusing for a while ! 

[Moderator David@stives]

It was , I was trying to split the post from another one, it just fried my brain

[mr D]

can i put it to some of you guys if i asked you to stop for a cup of coffe with me for half an hour would you? well what if i asked you to instead of stopping for the brew donate the money you would of earn in that short time. without highlighting the earning of the advrage window cleaners hourly rate i'm sure you will see that it really aint that much in the terms of time rather than money.

[Tosh]

Can I just point out that even though I've never ran a marathon, I live with someone who does do that sort of stuff.

It's not easy; this is going to dominate Mr D's life for the next five months; he'll end up training six days a week and his weekly training should culminate to a 20 mile training run.  Most runners do thier 'long run' on a Sunday morning and when they're finished they're knackered, but they still have to do the 'family stuff'.  And getting the 'long run' in when it's grey, freezing cold, raining and ruddy miserable takes some strength of character; I couldn't do it.

And come Monday when it's time for work, they're still knackered; fine if you're an office worker sat on your arse, but tough if you're a window cleaner on your feet all day.

Marathon training is tough on both the runner and the family.

And not only that, I'm guessing Dean (Mr D) is running a 'charity place', which means he HAS to hit the target the charity sets for him; so not only has the pressure of fitting in the training, making sure the training doesn't affect his family too much ('cos it will), he also has to make time to get the sponsorship money in; which isn't easy.

So if you can, and it's a good cause (one in three people reading this post will suffer from cancer at some stage in their lives), donate to a fellow window cleaner whose just doing something he feels is right to do.

www.justgiving.com/deankelly

It takes less than five minutes to do.

[Mark Sadler]

These charitys and fund raisers are extremely important to Cancer Research, British Heart Foundation etc.. I have been donating to these two charitys for 5 years now with out missing a payment.

It would be wonderful if everybody in the world would do the same but as many people have said to me in the past Charity Starts At Home; these people IMO are very narrow minded when they say things like that. Why cant they just say I can't afford it. Keep it up MR D you are helping to change someones life.

[peter holley]

my mum died of cancer 5 yrs ago....its amazing how many people i know or meet that have had their lives affected by this illness..... i had 3 customers die last month. 2 of them were young .one ot them had a 12 yr old and  11 yr old children, goodnessknows how they will cope with their loss.

[Moderator David@stives]

If this is to work on a regular basis.

I dont want anyone to feel obliged or bullied into giving, Myself personally have my own charities and if someone comes to my door collecting i turn them away.

I give when i want to give and to the charities I choose, not the ones i feel pressurised into.

The worst thing anyone can do is slate those who dont give, you dont know there reasons why they havent, nor should they have to explain.

I want to highlight a good cause each month and it can easily be ruined by peer pressure.

Dave

www.justgiving.com/deankelly

[baldeagle]

Mr D,

Just in case we sit in front of the TV on the day, and miss your bucket and ladder being carried round the course, do you know your race number yet?

Let us know when you get it, mate.

Baldeagle

[mr D]

thank you p. holley and baldeagle for your donations. i didnt thank you earlyer when you donated baldeagle as i wasn't to sure where you were from as ive posted on another forum asking for sponcership, a bodybuilding site i used to use. amazingly not one of my old online training buddys have put there hand in there pockets. i know dave said he personaly dont give for a pat on the back but that dont mean he and every one else dont deserve one!! I think it says so much about window cleaners in general that so many have given so kindly already. my wife is so happy that you guys have surported me and commented that you window cleaners have hearts of gold. i told her, ''I always told you were a cut above the rest''

in regards to what Dave said ref: peer presure, i totally agree. i too have other charitys i give to like 'help for heros' and the 'royal britsh legion' as an ex-service man these are causes i'll always surport and when people come round mine colecting for red nose day or comic relife i kindly say sorry but i give to other charitys. mainly because life mark sadler said i'm one of the people that belives charity starts at home. by that i mean here in britian.

when i set up my direct debit to the 'Royal British Legion' my platoon sgt said thnk as it as an investment, one day every one of you lot will need there help. the same cant be said for every one in regard's to cancer care but in this day and age with more and more people being affected by cancer its a good bet that you will.

i'm glad of evey penny i raise but would be rather upset to think anyone had given because they thought they should because they will look like a tight git if they dont. thats not what charity is all about.

tosh- thankyou for highlighing these facts. i did my long run this evening today rather than this morning. because as it says in the justgiving page we have a 5month old baby and as my wife no longer has her mum here to help her out from time to time i spend evey second i can not just soaking up the glory that is my beautiful May-Rose but also trying help where ever possable. besides my long run aint that long yet only 12 miles today. got in about 2 hours ago

[Tosh]

besides my long run aint that long yet only 12 miles today. got in about 2 hours ago

That sounds long enough to me.  Anyway Runner's World have a good forum and resource centre (training programmes, stuff about diet; hints and tips) if you haven't already found it.

They also have a good 'race finder' which should help to you to keep motivated; as racing does.  Wor Lass usually seeks out and runs a 20 mile race about a month before a marathon, purely for marathon training purposes; and I think from then on she slackens off the training to recover properly for the actual marathon.

A good book recommended by Wor Lass's running club is 26.2 Marathon Stories written by Kathrine Switzer and Roger Bobinson; it's described as fascinating and easily readable all about marathon running.  I've not read it, but it does get a lot of praise in Wor Lass's club newsletter.

Oh, and have you considered joining your local running club?  About now, Wor Lass's club gets loads of new members from people wanting to run the London Marathon.  It helps with motivation and training techniques.

[baldeagle]

OK Mr D, yes I'm from "The forum".

I live in Staffordshire, a small town called Stone, about 6 miles north of Stafford, and used to work with a bloke that died of Meso-what-ever-it-is that you get from asbestos.

18 months from diagnosis for him, only 49, and the Macmillan nurses were great with him, and his wife and boys.

We used to work as Engineers for a Bank, and it knocked the rest of us, because there were 10 of us, in five shifts, and we were like a little family, knew all the others wives/girlfriends and children, so there's lot's of us out here that have been through it one way or another.

Baldeagle

[mr D]

thank you Adrian. very good of you. thanks for the surport.

[seandyer2003]

If you feel embarrassed by giving, i know some people do including myself, you can give annonymously,

 All i ask is take 5 mins to look at mrD's website  www.justgiving.com/deankelly

Okay okay, I've donated; just 'cos you put pressure on me to donate; but it's only the London Marathon; it's flat and fast; no problems really, it's just 26.2 miles!?

Wor Lass churns them out on a regular basis no problems, so they can't be that tough can they?  She did the Snowdon Marathon, arguably the second toughest road marathon in Western Europe in 3hrs 40 mins; so if Mr D beats that time on the nice 'down hill one with loads of support', I'll donate another tenner!

I can drive 26.2 miles in about 20 minutes, depending on traffic; it's not that tough is it?

How long is that marathon tosh?? I mountain biked up and down snowdon 2 years ago, got up in 2 hours and down in 15 minutes I believe the fell runners get up in under an hour!! puts my 2 hours too shame, and i didnt really stop, went full pelt the whole time but its hard work...

[Tosh]

If you feel embarrassed by giving, i know some people do including myself, you can give annonymously,

 All i ask is take 5 mins to look at mrD's website  www.justgiving.com/deankelly

Okay okay, I've donated; just 'cos you put pressure on me to donate; but it's only the London Marathon; it's flat and fast; no problems really, it's just 26.2 miles!?

Wor Lass churns them out on a regular basis no problems, so they can't be that tough can they?  She did the Snowdon Marathon, arguably the second toughest road marathon in Western Europe in 3hrs 40 mins; so if Mr D beats that time on the nice 'down hill one with loads of support', I'll donate another tenner!

I can drive 26.2 miles in about 20 minutes, depending on traffic; it's not that tough is it?

How long is that marathon tosh?? I mountain biked up and down snowdon 2 years ago, got up in 2 hours and down in 15 minutes I believe the fell runners get up in under an hour!! puts my 2 hours too shame, and i didnt really stop, went full pelt the whole time but its hard work...

Sean,

A marathon is 26.2 miles, though you do have Ultra Marathons which are longer; the Snowdon Marathon is on road, goes around Snowdon, but there's loads of climb; in fact something like the last four miles are an uphill slog.

However, Wor Lass is planning a two-day mountain marathon; but she's looking for a partner to do that with, and it's not going to be me.  She does a lot of fell running though, she's running some race at the Blorenge this weekend (it's up a mountain) and she's another in January where Channel 5 will be there doing some programme on extreme sports.

[eddie d]

10 donated good luck m8.
i put in for it myself  on the ballot but didnt get a place .but usually go and watch ast the half way stage ,wher you see the runners go 1 way at 13 i think and come bac at 18 all tired ,

tosh /my m8 do0ne the snowdon .said it was a bad day bit wet .but he done it in 325 .not a pb but not bad at 42.hes also doing the marathon desarb  the one across the desert .
u should have a go .or are you more of a greyhound .

[eddie d]

this is a good idea dave .

[Tosh]

tosh /my m8 do0ne the snowdon .said it was a bad day bit wet .but he done it in 325 .not a pb but not bad at 42.hes also doing the marathon desarb  the one across the desert .
u should have a go .or are you more of a greyhound .

No, I'm more of a slug nowadays; to be honest.

[eddie d]

dont let yourself go m8 . once the belly starts you hav had it .
+ your misses may come to her sences