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Poll

Who uses what? And why?

Scrim
Microfibre
both
microfibre better?
Scrim better?

Ian_Giles

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Scrim V Microfibre
« on: March 05, 2005, 06:23:10 pm »
I've always used scrim, more by habit than design in truth :-\
A year or two ago I bought a single microfibre cloth, it was the green Unger one, but it was the tiny one, sorry, they are crap, next to useless so far as I'm concerned >:( Too small for anything other than blowing your nose in ;)
Effective to be sure, but got wet far to quickly.

Now before long Unger and other manufacturers brought out ones the same size as a scrim.
I have (had) been intending to try out the larger ones, but I had gone over to WFP, and the amount of use my scrims got dropped dramatically, so no real inducement to try one out.
Up at the NEC show in Brum I decided to buy a couple of the larger ones from the Unger stand, a fiver each, what the hell, I was flush, so go for it 8)

I have been mightily impressed, a top product, it does in wipe what it would take 3 or 4 with a scrim.
No bits left behind, great on large panes of glass (internal, over computers and so on) and even when damp it they still leave your work smear free.

I'll still use my scrims, but now it will be for mopping up dirty sills and so on, on the glass it will always be the microfibres from now on.

As for which make or type of microfibre?.........well thats another question altogether :o
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Ian_Giles

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2005, 06:28:24 pm »
Darn it >:(
I meant to have the poll set up so that you could choose which you use, and which you preffered, I mucked it up :'( you need to put in multiple answers but can only put in one :'(

Sigh, its hard being me sometimes :-[

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

pjulk

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2005, 07:38:19 pm »
I am stuck in my ways always have used scrim and get good results so why change.
Maybe one day i will buy a piece but i like scrim so can't see me changing over to microfibre and the microfibre i looked at once had a weird feel to it.

Paul

karlosdaze

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2005, 09:27:27 pm »
Have you noticed how microfibre is like sticky tape?

Ian_Giles

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2005, 09:40:06 pm »
yeah, has a strange feel to it ???
But Paul, spend a fiver, try one out, if you think it suck let your missus use it as a very expensive dishcloth...........err, or let her make you use it as a very expensive dishcloth ;D
Faint heart never won......umm....something or other :-\

Give one a try, then post how you got on, on here. Get the 'big un' though, the small one sucks ;)

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2005, 10:28:02 pm »
Have you noticed how microfibre is like sticky tape?

Definately - if a bit hangs out your pouch and you walk too close to a brick wall, it gets dragged away from you.

I find scrims for routine window cleaning are fine.  But on leaded, I use a damp (cheap) blue pulex microfibre cloths to wash, and a dry green large Unger one to polish.

They work far better than scrims on leaded.

Oh, I'm now meant to be washing up (and I bloody cooked)- (Wor Lass is in the bath) - and she's bought micro-fibre dish cloths.  I wonder if they're any better than a normal dish cloth? 

I'll try and put finding out till tomorrow (if she'll let me).


pjulk

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2005, 11:53:33 pm »
I have got to order some more stuff next week so i will add one of those microfibre cloths to the shopping list.

Paul

rosskesava

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2005, 11:59:18 pm »
I use both for different things. I also use a chamois.

I wasn't quite sure which to put down but if I had to it would be

1st - chamois

2nd - microfibre

3rd - scrim

but if the frames etc, were a 1st clean it would be in the opposite order.

Amyway, I voted microfibre but only just ..............  as both have their uses but the brick wall thing is annoying with microfibre and sometimes it is really rough to touch but I think micrfibre does leaded work better than a scrim.

And Ian, you think it's hard being you - try being me.   ???

Mike_G

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2005, 09:38:04 am »
Have used both scrim does seem a lot easier to use on windows but the microfibre does a fantastic job on pint and wine glass.

mgcleaning

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2005, 11:40:24 am »
have tried the small one and was not in the least bit impressed >:( and I  think it has a bit of a velcro feel to it, I find that if my hands are a bit rough :P then I can"t get the darn thing into my pouch. But maybe I will try one of the bigger ones next time I am re- stocking
Life can only be understood backwards; but most be lived forwards.  
Soren Kirkegaard

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2005, 12:03:35 pm »
1st - chamois

Wow, havn't used one of those for about 10 years.
Does anyone else still use them?

For leaded i spray then scrim off, excellent finish

Ian Rochester

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2005, 12:09:26 pm »
Always used scrim, but bought two of the large Unger microfibre cloths at the Show last week, just given them a couple of washes and yet to try them out, I will let you know what I think of them later

Ian_Giles

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2005, 11:25:26 pm »
I gave up on the chamois 15 or more years ago, they do the job I suppose, but just aren't in the same league as scrim or microfibre.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

pjulk

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2005, 04:26:53 pm »
Last time i used a chamois was about 18 years ago when i first did window cleaning.
I did think anyone used them anymore.

Paul

Duke

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2005, 04:34:44 pm »
I still see the odd cleaner trawling the streets with ladders and a bucket....it does make me smile...how quaint I think....I wonder if some Chimney Sweeps still send kids up the chimney....as I drift off in a cloud of nostalgia... :)

Mike_G

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2005, 05:07:08 pm »
Chamois then scrim easy, if you know what your doing.

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2005, 08:50:10 pm »
Chamois then scrim easy, if you know what your doing.

Mike,

I'm new(ish) to this and have never used a chamois.  What do you mean by chamois then scrim easy? 

I keep an open mind.  Do you mean you soap with a T Bar, squeegie, then chamois the edges, followed by a scrim?

Or do you not use a squeegie, and chamois the glass, followed by a scrim?

Help!  Confused (normally quite easy)!

Tosh.

Tussin

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2005, 09:49:07 pm »
I use scrim for the last 12 years but am open to knew ways. Microfibre seems weird to use for detailing a window although I understand advantage on the nasty leaded stuff.
     Do you wash it differently?
Mr Gould does sound very professional doesn't he, I wonder if he has a mega-phone attached to his car to advertise his business along with his chamois or maybe he's really super modern and has gone for a snazzy biz card!

rosskesava

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2005, 09:54:30 pm »
I use one large chamois for going around the windows edges and one half size one for the frames, sills etc on jobs that are on going. i.e 4 weekly for residentual and weekly for commercial.

When the window chamois leaves streaks (very rarely) I find the nearest tap, rinse it and wring it out and hey presto, as good as new.

The one I use for frames etc, all I ever do during the day is wring it out.

The other two I work with go through maybe upwards of 20 scrim/microfibre cloths a day which then require washing and drying. All I do every night is rinse my 2 chamois.

On those first cleans where the windows and frames are a state, I use scrims and microfibre simply because it's easier to use them as I can just throw them in the van afterwards and one of the other two washes them.  ;D I do find microfibre better and quicker on leaded work though.

Also, at the end of each day often my chamois is drier than it was when I started the day. I don't what it is about a chamois but it does seem to dry much much quicker than either microfibre or scrim.

As for filthy water in a bucket ........ roll up hanging out of mouth and a cloth cap with a cheery 'clean your windows misses.........' - didn't that vanish ages ago?

Tussin

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2005, 10:02:16 pm »
Well said. Keep those nicotine stained windows down to a minimum.