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Poll

Who uses what? And why?

Scrim
Microfibre
both
microfibre better?
Scrim better?

Mike_G

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2005, 10:09:48 pm »
Is this going to get nasty or what?
I don't use chamois for doing the edge dry scrim is fine for that, normally I will use a scrim on windows that are too small for a blade or for windows I do from inside which slide up and down and do not open outwards, but each to their own. If you have mastered scrimming (ragging), microfibre or even chamois and scrim good luck to you as long as the job gets done.

Mike_G

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2005, 10:23:08 pm »
Tosh,

My method for using a chamois (just my own method, not saying anyone elses is wrong!!)

Never use a squeegee, then chamois, as window gets too wet.
If window is really dirty, use your swab (the cloth you wipe the sills with) assuming you wipe the sills down!!, then chamois and finally polish with scrim or microfibre cloth.  (For those doing inside of a pub, try using your wet swab before the applicator, then squeegee off)

If you do not use a scrim or microfibre, it will almost certainly leave smears unless the chamois is brand new.  This is because a chamois will only move dirt around the window whereas scrim/microfibre absorbs the dirt.  (Did you know that scrim is used under the covers on cricket wickets after rain, to absorb the moisture, but its a very large scrim?!)



rosskesava

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2005, 10:28:34 pm »
Hi Graham_Gould

Only idiots smoke.

Yes. Sure. An absolute fact that is supported by a wealth of scientific behavourably authenticated and proovable truths and demonstratable by repeat experiments.

If you don't smoke that is good, being sanctimosious about those that do is not what, I think, the issue is on this thread.

Anyway, there are 3 veiw points to what say supposing it is true.

One, if those who smoke are idiots, then by stating that then those idiots won't understand it because they are idiots.

Two, maybe idiots are more prone to smoking than non idiots because they are idiots.

And a third point, you mean to say than in the whole wide world there is not one non idiot who smokes?

Hi Mike_G

There are 3 of us who work together and we all have very different ways of doing things but the end result is the same. I agree, it's what works for you. I couldn't get on with microfibre for detailing but then the other 2 couldn't get on with a chamois.

What lead me to try a chamois, and microfibre, was another posting on this forum a while back.

With a chamois, I found that unless every night I give it a good rinse untill the water is almost clean, then it does leave streaks and it does have to be very well 'wrung' out before usuing.

Also scrim was originally used for storing grains (in sacks) as it was more absobent that what was being stored inside it.

Tussin

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2005, 10:46:52 pm »
Gee rosskesava, I wonder if you smoke, not sure but willing to bet a nice new scrim that you do!

Mike_G

  • Posts: 1500
Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2005, 11:02:56 pm »
Does it really matter if you smoke or not, even if you are a non smoker, I'm sure we all have family or friends that do (or have and are no longer with us) and I for one do not wish any Ill on them at all. And what the hell has microfibre V scrim got to do with flat caps and smoking ! Merry Christmas

rosskesava

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2005, 11:23:50 pm »
Dunno.

Ask Graham.

He saw a relationship not me.

Or is it a 'have a dig' type thing.

The flat cap thing - that was a bit of humour from me as Duke sort went down that path a little. My Dad did window cleaning ... ladder and a bucket.... roll up hanging ffom mouth ...... jack of all trades.... etc.
 
Don't know if he was a chimney sweep though.
Quote

I still see the odd cleaner trawling the streets with ladders and a bucket....it does make me smile...how quaint I think....I wonder if some Chimney Sweeps still send kids up the chimney....as I drift off in a cloud of nostalgia...



Anyway, my partner just phoned me to say that microfibre is best with no doubt.

Ian Rochester

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2005, 05:42:38 pm »
Just used my new microfibres for the first time today, had one myself and gave the other to one of the lads.  LOVE THEM, no smears, brilliant of leaded and small windows, excellent shine

Will be buying some more very soon

Duke

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2005, 07:26:58 pm »
whoops, guess I meandered a bit there....sorry Ross.....but I'll tell yer what...gets a bit vicious here sometimes.... too much stress I guess :)

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2005, 09:00:27 pm »
Another Graham Gould sabotage string. how did we get from microfiber to a smoking debate ???

Iv'e just used microfiber for the first time. Only those small unger ones mind. Great for edging, not so good when wet.

Absolutley brilliant for leaded. Highly recommend.

rosskesava

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2005, 09:15:23 pm »
Yup, another sabotage by Graham. I think it best to ignore him untill he posts any revealing experience to do with window cleaning that is related to the thread.

And Duke, guess what? My Dad did do chimneys as well.

He also said (with regards window cleaning) to 'forget about all that new cloth stuff ........  Aye laddie, beermat cloths........'.

Beermat cloths?

Any one heard any like that? Old towels was another my Dad suggested.



AuRavelling79

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2005, 11:06:38 pm »
I'm with yer Dad! I use old towels quartered and used as as cill cloths
It's a game of three halves!

Duke

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2005, 04:17:20 pm »
fair play to him l.....I guess it sort of goes hand in hand...I mean, lot's of WC'ers also do carpet cleaning as well, in fact one of our lad's does..(especially on wet day's !)..anybody else do 'a bit on the side' ?...I used to be a builder and roofer, still get the odd job in , even now.

Roy Harding

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2005, 07:30:38 pm »
I’m a fully qualified computer engineer I used to build & repair. But the window cleaning is less hassle. :)

leander

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2005, 11:29:31 pm »
I've used both over the last five years or so starting with the scrim. I then saw the micro advertised so I bought a couple of the small ones and was very impressed but they do get wet very quickly. The large one on the other hand is far superior especially on leads. Wouldn't be without them. Try them on your car next time you clean it....you'll never look at a chamois again!!

Ian Rochester

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2005, 06:56:53 am »
Duke/Roy,

Regarding other jobs on the side... up to 3 years ago I was a Factory Manager in a food factory, got made redundant and set myself away doing Carpet cleaning (to fill the time in between jobs!!)  Now got people working for me doing window cleaning, contract cleaning, builders cleans etc and also still busy with the Carpet cleaning.  I also own/run a holiday cottage and a large cycle hire business up here, which are both going very well.

But at the moment my real "side line" is I have just started doing some consultancy work for a factory, looking at their whole manufacturing structure, labour utilisation and process flow, 32 days work over the next 4 months, hours to suit, with an excellent hourly rate.  I never went looking for any work along these lines, but got talking to a past acquaintance in the pub just before Christmas and it's led to this.  Just did first day on it yesterday.

You've got to keep all those irons in the fire glowing hot.

If anyone fancies a few days in beautiful Northumberland, give me a call - I'll do you a special rate, though there are only a couple of weeks still available between now and end of October.

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2005, 03:49:25 pm »

Ian Rochester

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2005, 09:08:18 pm »
Always used cleantech for window gear, found them to be very competitive on prices and service is excellent.

g_griffin

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2005, 06:08:15 pm »
What about Huck towels?

    Gerry.

karlosdaze

Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2005, 04:18:45 pm »
What about Huck towels?

    Gerry.
Tried them, prefer scrim.

simbag

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Re: Scrim V Microfibre
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2005, 09:23:01 pm »
I have just started this last month, went straight into using microfibre coz scrimcity had a brillant price on the giant cloths:

http://www.scrimcity.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_27

So as I went straight for the microfibre, I have never used the scrim, can you tell me the difference between Grade 1 & 2? I know that one is a finer knit, but which one is which, and which do you find better?

Cheers ;)

Simon