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RSWindows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2008, 02:28:39 pm »
despite the difference of opinions it is good that people are making them clear as it helps build up a spectrum of situations that others have had.

Which i think can be a usefull tool when like me, just entering into the WFP club.

matt

Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2008, 04:47:21 pm »


So imo if your going to have a wfp dont go the diy bodged route I have see on here time and time again, have it done correctly fitted correctly and at a price a little over what you wuld pay for the parts and with out all the hassle.


bodged DIY route, what because some1 buys a tank a pump and a pole its dodged

thats like saying, the only web sites worth having are "custom made" and we know thats not true, as a template site does EXACTLY the same job or are we still trying to kid people on that aswell

once again, a post rubbishing people who can think for themselves, who can build a system, same old post from you  ::) ::) sad really

RSWindows, you need a tank, a pump and controller, some hose and a pole and brush ( with jets ) its not building a space rocket

as YWCS, spend a evening planning what you need, then order it, it will not even take a weekend to fit it all together

L.J.Thorpe has summed it up in his post, if you can drill a few holes, connect some pipe and do up a few nuts and bolts, your done


darragh windows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 05:30:13 pm »
do you know exactly how soft the water is in your area ???
jamie

darragh windows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2008, 05:38:36 pm »
do you know exactly how soft the water is in your area ???




the biggest mistake i made when buying our diy system was the fact that our water was so soft there was never any need for a ro system
jamie

RSWindows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 05:41:47 pm »
with the R/O it will reduce the resin changes....am i right?

ive been told the water around here is approx 48TDS

darragh windows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2008, 05:47:02 pm »
with the R/O it will reduce the resin changes....am i right?

ive been told the water around here is approx 48TDS



you would need to confirm your tds for yourself and if it is only 48 you definitly dont need a ro ,my tds is 50 and with double di one bag of resin lasts about 18 weeks at about 2400litres per week



jamie

RSWindows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2008, 06:05:22 pm »
with R/O ive been estimated a resin change every year to year and a half. How much does it cost for a R/O system and compare that to a system with no R/O

PS: im asking not stating...

in other words how much does the R/O add to the price of the system?

Mick (UHPS)

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2008, 06:17:00 pm »
Can I ask a couple of question about insurance for self/profesional WFP installation?

I am insured with A Plan. When I took out the policy about 3 years ago it included all the WFP equipment in the van...One of the stipulations was that the tank and equipment must have been professionally installed by certain manufacturers/suppliers. At that time, and I've never needed to ask the question again, they quoted Ionics, facelift and I think Brodex. Mine was installed by Facelift so not a problem.

Now, we have another van that we use for the office cleaning side of our business. The insurance company that we use for this van sent us a letter stating that our insurance policy would be null and void if we were carrying water in it. When I rang them to confirm that we didn't they said that there were a number of window cleaners that were carrying water and as a result were not covered.

Can you get insurance for a self installation?

Has the list of acceptable installers changed/increased to include the numerous new WFP businesses that are starting up?

I am soon going to be getting a 2nd WFP van and was wondering what options there would be.

Thanks

Mick

darragh windows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2008, 06:18:00 pm »
with R/O ive been estimated a resin change every year to year and a half. How much does it cost for a R/O system and compare that to a system with no R/O

PS: im asking not stating...

in other words how much does the R/O add to the price of the system?


will if you tds is 48 and you use the roughly the same amount of water as me di only will cost you about £200 a year .not sure of the ro 4040 prices but i know one of the membranes for it would cost close to this ,
  di only has so many benefits i can fill my tank which is only 250 litres in five minutes straight form tap, top up at customers houses with there permission of course through out the day plus at the end of the day i can drain my tank so its safer driving with no water in it
jamie

darragh windows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2008, 06:23:58 pm »
i suggest you order a tds meter your going to need one anyway check you tds and then take it from there you may get your system a hell of a lot cheaper if its di only
jamie

Mick (UHPS)

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2008, 06:30:15 pm »
with the R/O it will reduce the resin changes....am i right?

ive been told the water around here is approx 48TDS

I dont know if this information is useful?

Our water is about 90 TDS, I have a 40" RO and DI system. We use about 2000 Litres a week and had the system for 4 years. Thats about 400,000 litres of water. I change the pre and carbon filters 6 monthly, but have never changed the DI resin or RO membrane. After every fill I pump pure water through to flush the RO until the reading at the drain is about 2 - 4 TDS. The water in the tanks has never been anything above 0 TDS.

Hope this helps

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2008, 06:49:25 pm »
on the insurance front
my tank is restrained with 5 ton ratchet straps attatched to a steel chassis
the whole thing can be removed by two people in about 10 mins
as it is not a permanent fixture it is classed as cargo
my insurance broker checked this out and said it was fine

RSWindows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2008, 06:56:09 pm »
does this mean that you cannot fit it into your van yourself?  :o

well without voiding your insurance anyways? ive never heard of this tbh. Defo something i will have to look into

ftp

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2008, 07:02:06 pm »
The hardest part of diy-ing a system is the mounting of the tank to the vans chassis. Setting up an ro or connecting a di or anything else is laughably simple i can't believe someone like Ian is incapable of doing it. if you can make a Harris pole then surely you can screw a handfull of hoselock connectors together?  ::)
I think my eight year old daughter could work it out to be honest.

Mick (UHPS)

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2008, 07:12:43 pm »
on the insurance front
my tank is restrained with 5 ton ratchet straps attatched to a steel chassis
the whole thing can be removed by two people in about 10 mins
as it is not a permanent fixture it is classed as cargo
my insurance broker checked this out and said it was fine


Well after the discussions I had with both my insurance companies they would not accept this.

A removable tank would be a benefit for my next van...who is your insurer? It could be worth a call.

Thanks

Mick

ftp

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2008, 07:28:16 pm »
What's Charlotte saying? Can anyone lip read?

RSWindows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2008, 07:32:33 pm »
 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o

OMG she has a mouth and its saying something!!! Well spotted mate!!!

i was oblivious that there was a person attatched to those jublieez

Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2008, 07:52:20 pm »
i went wfp 3 months ago. i opted for a diy system. wish i hadn't now. dont get me wrong its great but if you work out the time spent putting it all together making mistakes un thought of extra exspences and loss time i'd of been much better off going up north and getting one of the few factory fitted systems done. serously doode i lost money from having my van off the road due to tank fiting in etc etc.

That's why i went for a Tucker system.  ;D

Drop the van off & picked it up 2 days later & started working her the next day. Only had 1 problem & that was with the varistream that they came out & sorted. I went for a 2 man system for back up.

Mick (UHPS)

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2008, 07:58:21 pm »
What's Charlotte saying? Can anyone lip read?

Right, shes coming at yer now does that help?  :P ;D

........hello boys.


RSWindows

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Re: WFP Project...
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2008, 08:01:03 pm »
I LIKE HER BOY!

must have been talking about my mother   ::)