[RO-Sheen]

As most of you know I am wfp and always have been but I have been asked to quote for some shops. I can do the outside (weekly) wfp but inside will have to be done trad for obvious reasons.

As I have very little experience with trad, how should I clean these big sheets of glass?? I can't bring my normal ladders into the shop so is it best to use pointers. Which pointers should I get? I was looking at window cleaning warehouse and was thinking along the lines of the double pointers. They extend from 2.05m to 3.58m For £188.
What you recommend this ladder and how would you go about cleaning internally

PLEASE HELP!!!

[DaveG]

How high are the windows?

Can they be done with a mop and blade on an extension pole?

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Pointers are great, a 7ft single point is one of the best things a window cleaner can have but I would have to agree that the best way of doing them especially if it's weekly is by pole mop and blade, you'll save so much time compared to ladders.

Simon.

[RO-Sheen]

Thanks for replying!

The windows are only single story high, (regular shop front windows from ground to ceiling height). So Yes, It can be done as you suggested. If I did it that way would you do it in vertical strips? and if so how would you avoid vertical smears?

Adie

[Elginn]

Always wipe your blade after each stoke if your using vertical strips and you won't get water lines from your blade.

[paulscotney]

just do them side to side like normal squeeging but on the pole. Doing down strokes takes ages and ages, does not do a good job and looks very amateurish.  Just practice you will get there, practice at home on your own windows first.

[Richy L]

Always wipe your blade after each stoke if your using vertical strips and you won't get water lines from your blade.

this is the only way you can do this type of thing with a pole in my opinion. It does leave a result if done properly.
If you do it "side to side" you are asking for trouble, it will look terrible.

[tradman]

check out the ettore site it has a picture strip (bit like a cartoon) not fast but does do a good job. its under the info heading i think. if you can't find it then give me a shout

[RO-Sheen]

thanks guys for the help. Ideally I would do them side to side as Paul suggested but as the window will be full of display it would be difficult to navigate around it. Therefore the slow and painful vertical method might be best.
Its a Laura Ashley shop and dont think they would be too happy if I knocked over their display or moved it around  

[gsw]

no no no, short pole with a wagtail flipper, save time and money,

greg

[paulscotney]

Always wipe your blade after each stoke if your using vertical strips and you won't get water lines from your blade.

this is the only way you can do this type of thing with a pole in my opinion. It does leave a result if done properly.
If you do it "side to side" you are asking for trouble, it will look terrible.

Well I did 13 or so  Abbey Nationals, 10 Coop Supermarkets, 2 Gas Showrooms, 11 Powerhouse shops,  4 Alliance  and leics, Cheltenham and Glos, Nat provincial etc etc etc etc etc every week for 10 years and I never had a problem, Down strokes take ages as you have to wipe the blade each time plus you leave a smear at the top of each stroke unless you are really carefull. Down strokes may be good for a beginner but they take 3 times as long as doing it side to side. I did outsides and insides the same way, it was before WFP.

[tradman]

i agree, but, you can only order from oz, which took 2 weeks for mine, then he has 2 get good, meanwhile getting good results and not causing damage to stock in a confined space is probably a sensible option, don't forget he can't even squeegee by hand confidently yet

[RO-Sheen]

check out the ettore site it has a picture strip (bit like a cartoon) not fast but does do a good job. its under the info heading i think. if you can't find it then give me a shout

Hey tradman, Can't find it.

whats a wagtail flipper??

[tradman]

htt p://www.ettore.com/images/subnavclean_1.gif

w w w.wagtail.au

[Oakley Windows]

Buy a squeegee and applicator and practice at home.

You need to be able to clean trad just basics before you start farting about with wagtails etc.

Learn to do it left-handed as well as right-handed then you've learnt it for the future.

A pane of glass up to ceiling height ought to be able to be done stood on an 18" high platform, whatever you choose to carry around. No need for ladders.

[RO-Sheen]

Thanks everyone. I do a little bit of trad ( a few of my customers get their patio doors done on a regular basis) so its not totally alien to me. I will contact a mate of mine that still does alot of trad and get a refresher course from him!
I will have a look fo some 18" platforms,  might do the trick! 

[tradman]

milk crates

[Oakley Windows]

milk crates

Yes, that kind of thing.

[tradman]

oh the irony....£10k of kit to clean one side of the same window, £3 squeegee, £7 applicator / sleeve £20 pole, £0 milkcrate and some posh fairy liquid with aloe vera to clean the other side ;Dlol

[RO-Sheen]

oh the irony....£10k of kit to clean one side of the same window, £3 squeegee, £7 applicator / sleeve £20 pole, £0 milkcrate and some posh fairy liquid with aloe vera to clean the other side ;Dlol

So true...............Life can be so over-engineered at times!! Thanks again for all the help everyone especially tradman