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matt

Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2008, 02:44:56 pm »
I worked abroad a few years, in another European country, does that mean I was sponger?

What makes me laugh is that so many people winge aabout those that have come from abroad to work in the UK but forget the figures are probably fairly balanced one way or another as you seem to forget that we as Brits also travel abroad taking jobs from those whose countries they reside in.

In does work both way you know.

However, I still get peed off when the town centre is full of gorgeous looking  Polish girls on a Saturday night, I mean what is the world coming to??   ;)

Yeah.  That p's me off too but only because I can't speak Polish  :)

ive started to learn polish, only because when my daughter started school a little polish girl started, she spoke no english, so my daughter asked if we could learn to speak polish, so we did

 

Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2008, 03:01:20 pm »
I worked abroad a few years, in another European country, does that mean I was sponger?

What makes me laugh is that so many people winge aabout those that have come from abroad to work in the UK but forget the figures are probably fairly balanced one way or another as you seem to forget that we as Brits also travel abroad taking jobs from those whose countries they reside in.

In does work both way you know.

However, I still get peed off when the town centre is full of gorgeous looking  Polish girls on a Saturday night, I mean what is the world coming to??   ;)

Yeah.  That p's me off too but only because I can't speak Polish  :)

ive started to learn polish, only because when my daughter started school a little polish girl started, she spoke no english, so my daughter asked if we could learn to speak polish, so we did

 

 Dzień dobry matt

matt

Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2008, 04:25:40 pm »
I worked abroad a few years, in another European country, does that mean I was sponger?

What makes me laugh is that so many people winge aabout those that have come from abroad to work in the UK but forget the figures are probably fairly balanced one way or another as you seem to forget that we as Brits also travel abroad taking jobs from those whose countries they reside in.

In does work both way you know.

However, I still get peed off when the town centre is full of gorgeous looking  Polish girls on a Saturday night, I mean what is the world coming to??   ;)

Yeah.  That p's me off too but only because I can't speak Polish  :)

ive started to learn polish, only because when my daughter started school a little polish girl started, she spoke no english, so my daughter asked if we could learn to speak polish, so we did

 

 Dzień dobry matt


dzien dobry William

Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2008, 02:52:21 pm »
Well dave you would know why i posted such a post if you went to price a job because the old cleaners had been sacked for being terrible at cleaning windows, and you submit a quote for £150 for a large commercial site and get laughed at because the company who had polish window cleaners were charging £27. They spoil the industry for EVERYONE!!!  im pretty sure that if this happened to you then you would be of similar thinking to my statements. I at no point said i "Dispise" the polish or anything even close to that comment but as the situation develops the industry is being ruined thanks to these people. Of the £27 paid about £15 of that will be sent to the country of origin and britain is worse off. The window cleaning industry is worse off. For me it is a lose - lose situation.

Despite the potential customer getting a much better service/quality they just refuse to pay the average price after always being charges a measly £27, even if i dont ammend my price there is someone out there who will take the job on  at an under-average price. I by no means feel sorry for myself but i do for the poor guy who takes the job on who is clearly just desperate for the work to put food on his table.

~That is the angle i am coming from. Dave i fully understand your comments and believe it or not i agree with almost all of them but without you experiancing the situation of being laughed at because you charge, what is...competative prices then you should not interprate my comments as me "dispising" such workers. For me to dispise such people that could/would be interperated as racism.....something which i whole hartedly diss-agree with!

Its nothing to do with the Polish guys.

Its the Scottish firm theyre working for, we all know Scots are as tight as a ducks arse  ;)


Read my ealyer post about the POLISH COMPANY numbnuts.

as for your other statement....you couldnt be more wrong or more hypocrytical my friend.

Umm, sense of humour gone astray somewhere?

numbnuts to you too  ;D

RSWindows

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Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2008, 07:13:15 pm »
Well dave you would know why i posted such a post if you went to price a job because the old cleaners had been sacked for being terrible at cleaning windows, and you submit a quote for £150 for a large commercial site and get laughed at because the company who had polish window cleaners were charging £27. They spoil the industry for EVERYONE!!!  im pretty sure that if this happened to you then you would be of similar thinking to my statements. I at no point said i "Dispise" the polish or anything even close to that comment but as the situation develops the industry is being ruined thanks to these people. Of the £27 paid about £15 of that will be sent to the country of origin and britain is worse off. The window cleaning industry is worse off. For me it is a lose - lose situation.

Despite the potential customer getting a much better service/quality they just refuse to pay the average price after always being charges a measly £27, even if i dont ammend my price there is someone out there who will take the job on  at an under-average price. I by no means feel sorry for myself but i do for the poor guy who takes the job on who is clearly just desperate for the work to put food on his table.

~That is the angle i am coming from. Dave i fully understand your comments and believe it or not i agree with almost all of them but without you experiancing the situation of being laughed at because you charge, what is...competative prices then you should not interprate my comments as me "dispising" such workers. For me to dispise such people that could/would be interperated as racism.....something which i whole hartedly diss-agree with!

Its nothing to do with the Polish guys.

Its the Scottish firm theyre working for, we all know Scots are as tight as a ducks arse  ;)


Well face to face i would be able to see the funny side dependant on your body language at the time but in a public forum where thousands of people reguraly read i can only interperate that as an insult.....if not then.....FINE  :D

still a numbnuts though   8)


Read my ealyer post about the POLISH COMPANY numbnuts.

as for your other statement....you couldnt be more wrong or more hypocrytical my friend.

Umm, sense of humour gone astray somewhere?

numbnuts to you too  ;D

RSWindows

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Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2008, 02:13:27 pm »
oops comment got somehow clogged up in the Quotes. should have posted...

Well face to face i would be able to see the funny side dependant on your body language at the time but in a public forum where thousands of people reguraly read i can only interperate that as an insult.....if not then.....FINE  Cheesy

still a numbnuts though   Cool

mark dew

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Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2008, 06:18:51 pm »
In my original post I was only referring to what was being said in the news.
I emerged victorious after a two year battle with our immigration dept, two years of hell for my Indonesian wife and her two little daughters.
It is extremely difficult for non EU citizens to come to the UK, we had to go before an immigration judge at tribunal.
The press annoy me so much , they lead people to believe that we let any one in, this is just not true,
I had the human rights act in my favour, thank God for that.
I am just a true born Brit who wanted to live with his wife, we do still have some rights.

Yea, that's shocking.
I met married couples (1 a brit) in south korea who said it took them 6 months from making the 1st approach to going to the consulate to pick up the visa. I thought that was out of order!!  ???

I don't have any issues with anyone coming here and working. It's the way of the world to try and improve our situation.
But i work in the countryside. And the only foreign accents you here in the villages around here are english.  ;D

dai

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Re: No time to rest on our laurels
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2008, 06:12:08 pm »
I just heard on the news that a local building firm has just gone belly up, this company was being hailed as a great success story 2 years ago.
350 people have just lost their jobs, a few potential window cleaners amongst this lot I'm sure.

I'm not a doom and gloom person by nature, but if you see the sky turning black you have to be prepared for a storm, that firm going bust was the first flash of local lightning, and it's still too far away to hear the thunder.

Things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get better.