[wightsurf]

Just in case anyone wants one heres a link. The 17mincut off safety timer can be taken out as i have read this on there web site whilst looking at the L10 reviews.

h ttp://www.goenergysystems.com/Eccotemp_L5_p/l5.htm

shipping is $60.to uk as i ask them

[LWC]

cheap as chips 

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

www.eccotemp.com/gas.htm    it's the bottom one.  There's a nice little pdf instruction manual on the page as well.

The one at the bottom.  The temperature control looks perfect.  My only concern would be the pressure rating, it says 20 - 80 psi, I'm wondering if a 100 psi pump would blow it, or if you'd have to turn the pressure on the pump down.

Looks great value for money though, who wants to spend £2000 on a diesel hot water add on.

Simon.

[Nathanael Jones]

You can adjust the pressure switch on your pump quite a lot before you notice any difference. A 60psi pump will work the same as a100psi if the flow rates match.

I've got my pump set to 70psi to reduce the time its running building up pressure in the hose after I close the flow valve.

The L10 is about the same power as the heater I have,... great for 2 men,.. a bit hot for a 1 man setup tho IMO.

[Mr H]

Does that mean you can't use a flow controller with a hot WFP....?

Regards
Mr H

[NWH]

Does that mean you can't use a flow controller with a hot WFP....?

Regards
Mr H

You can use a flow controller.

[wightsurf]

Does'nt a flow controler(ecoflow/varistream) reduce the psi ?

[Nathanael Jones]

Does'nt a flow controler(ecoflow/varistream) reduce the psi ?

Nope,.. it slows the pump, but it still builds up the same pressure when the flow is stopped,.. just a little slower.

[wightsurf]

So if i don't stop the flow i'm safe then,as i don't stop it much anyway.

[Nathanael Jones]

Personally,.. I'd use the pressure switch on the pump,... AND an auxiliary pressure switch to control the heater (Stop the flame when the flow stops & pressure rises).
I'd also instal a relay connected to the pump wires (a 6v one) so that the heater can't physically run unless the pump is running first. It's simple,.. I've done it on my own heater,. but it prevents the overheat sensor kicking in if the heater runs too long after the flow stops.
You can also buy GEMS flow switches from www.radionics.ie that are useful for controlling heaters. I'd recommend the 2 litre per minute one,... I bought the 1lpm one and find it a little sensitive.

[The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company]

Hi .

Inspired by Nathaneal's  hot water set up.  I decided to experiment, so I filled a barrel up with hot tap water ( temp before I started cleaning was 55c), and cleaned my own windows that had a good months worth wind battered dirt, insect poo and salt grime - once the hot water came through ( which took a while to flush out the Di, and  hose) it was a noticeably easier clean, and insect poo cleaned off very easily. i didn't measure the head temp, but I would estimate it was about 25 to 30 c. Hot enough to make the hose's soft .

I also got the impression that glass was drying quicker - but then it was there was a breeze, and relatively mild afternoon.

I can see a real advantage on ' 1st' cleans, gutters and conservatories - for maintenance cleans I think it would be an easier clean, and slightly faster.

 
I have found a heater for sale close to my home.

Its a Morco D61B Gas water heater.

Would this do the job?

The technical specs says it can take up 10 bar, and a rise of 25degrees c above the ambient, and flow rate of up to 6 litres per minute.

I can get it for a good price, but I may be a tad bulky, compared to the L5 to fit my Pug Partner van.

Thanks

Marc

[Nathanael Jones]

In a pug partner the L5 might be better. Not only for size, but because its designed to be used unvented. You can just leave the back doors open and work away!

[The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company]

mmmmm, I'm kind of thinking the same.

Is the L5 ok with the 100psi pressure though?

As its max rating is 80psi, with a recommendation of 60psi being used

Size and design the L5 would certainly be better for the Pug Van, as finding a suitable slot for the Morco could be awkward ( its going to a tight squeeze whatever I use). But I Morco is rated for 100PSI pressure.


Marc

[wightsurf]

Can't we just pump the water through the heater and back into the tank before we go to work, so that the tank is hot and work from that. or would it go cold quick?

[Dave Turley]

Hi .

Inspired by Nathaneal's  hot water set up.  I decided to experiment, so I filled a barrel up with hot tap water ( temp before I started cleaning was 55c), and cleaned my own windows that had a good months worth wind battered dirt, insect poo and salt grime - once the hot water came through ( which took a while to flush out the Di, and  hose) it was a noticeably easier clean, and insect poo cleaned off very easily. i didn't measure the head temp, but I would estimate it was about 25 to 30 c. Hot enough to make the hose's soft .

I also got the impression that glass was drying quicker - but then it was there was a breeze, and relatively mild afternoon.

I can see a real advantage on ' 1st' cleans, gutters and conservatories - for maintenance cleans I think it would be an easier clean, and slightly faster.

 
I have found a heater for sale close to my home.

Its a Morco D61B Gas water heater.

Would this do the job?

The technical specs says it can take up 10 bar, and a rise of 25degrees c above the ambient, and flow rate of up to 6 litres per minute.

I can get it for a good price, but I may be a tad bulky, compared to the L5 to fit my Pug Partner van.

Thanks

Marc

I use a morco D61B.

I struggled to get the temperature right until I fitted a thermostatic mixer valve, now it works beautifully , just keeps kicking on & off as needed

[Nathanael Jones]

Hi .

Inspired by Nathaneal's  hot water set up.  I decided to experiment, so I filled a barrel up with hot tap water ( temp before I started cleaning was 55c), and cleaned my own windows that had a good months worth wind battered dirt, insect poo and salt grime - once the hot water came through ( which took a while to flush out the Di, and  hose) it was a noticeably easier clean, and insect poo cleaned off very easily. i didn't measure the head temp, but I would estimate it was about 25 to 30 c. Hot enough to make the hose's soft .

I also got the impression that glass was drying quicker - but then it was there was a breeze, and relatively mild afternoon.

I can see a real advantage on ' 1st' cleans, gutters and conservatories - for maintenance cleans I think it would be an easier clean, and slightly faster.

 
I have found a heater for sale close to my home.

Its a Morco D61B Gas water heater.

Would this do the job?

The technical specs says it can take up 10 bar, and a rise of 25degrees c above the ambient, and flow rate of up to 6 litres per minute.

I can get it for a good price, but I may be a tad bulky, compared to the L5 to fit my Pug Partner van.

Thanks

Marc

I use a morco D61B.

I struggled to get the temperature right until I fitted a thermostatic mixer valve, now it works beautifully , just keeps kicking on & off as needed

I'd love to see pics of that. I tried the thermostatic valve and had huge problems on my setup,.. I assumed the valves were designed for higher flow rates?

[dmlservices]

Does'nt a flow controler(ecoflow/varistream) reduce the psi ?

Nope,.. it slows the pump, but it still builds up the same pressure when the flow is stopped,.. just a little slower.

i think you will find a varistream does control pump pressure, you take of pressure switch, varistream takes over , you adjust pump pressure via blue dial[ if you have not got digital one, so you adjust shut of pressure on varistream. eco flow works different as it uses pumps pressure switch



daz

[The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company]

Hi .

Inspired by Nathaneal's  hot water set up.  I decided to experiment, so I filled a barrel up with hot tap water ( temp before I started cleaning was 55c), and cleaned my own windows that had a good months worth wind battered dirt, insect poo and salt grime - once the hot water came through ( which took a while to flush out the Di, and  hose) it was a noticeably easier clean, and insect poo cleaned off very easily. i didn't measure the head temp, but I would estimate it was about 25 to 30 c. Hot enough to make the hose's soft .

I also got the impression that glass was drying quicker - but then it was there was a breeze, and relatively mild afternoon.

I can see a real advantage on ' 1st' cleans, gutters and conservatories - for maintenance cleans I think it would be an easier clean, and slightly faster.

 
I have found a heater for sale close to my home.

Its a Morco D61B Gas water heater.

Would this do the job?

The technical specs says it can take up 10 bar, and a rise of 25degrees c above the ambient, and flow rate of up to 6 litres per minute.

I can get it for a good price, but I may be a tad bulky, compared to the L5 to fit my Pug Partner van.

Thanks

Marc

I use a morco D61B.

I struggled to get the temperature right until I fitted a thermostatic mixer valve, now it works beautifully , just keeps kicking on & off as needed

Hi Dave.

So doe's the Morco have IC ignition?

Marc

[Dave Turley]

mine has a pilot light but I think either would be fine

[p1w1]

out of interest what else would i need to run a hot water set up apart from that l5 heater and is it that easy to set up.

thanks

paul