[gordonswindows]

Really it seems like we all go round and around yet never get anywhere

Some of these fantastic prices are what they would charge, but never can because they can't get that job.

Charging £60 per hour is fine but you are not going to get much regular work that way, sure you will get one off's but what happens when one week you don't get any.

Stop playing for the quick buck and start building up a good fair priced regular portfolio.

Me? we would do that job for £50 + vat and none of this 8 week faffing about it would be £50 a month every month for years. That adds up to a lot more than a one off high price

One person one van two hours and w/c makes £20 we make £20 with a tenner for costs. Now we have enough work at present for 2.5 w/c forty hours a week, that's every week so without leaving the office it is a pretty decent wage. We have many clients that have been with us for over five years, work out that "hourly rate"

Stop looking for a quick killing and build a solid client base at fair prices, regular work either fortnightly or monthly forget the 8 week thing charge less but more often.

Offer excellent service with a fair price and no-one will take it away from you and then build in gutter cleaning, power washing, office cleaning carpet cleaning, supply them with cleaning products and disposables too.

Unless you just want to pop up as a w/c for a short while make a bundle and then do something else do it slowly.

C'mon now stop physically working hard and use your minds to work smarter

If we all stop blowing our trumpets and competing with each other we could share all the good ideas and all of us would benefit. My business plan is to join up with other w/c across the country and take on the big nationals at their own game. We could offer quality, experience and best practice. Can you imagine Tesco's choosing between us or Mitie wow we would wipe the floor with them. But only if we stop pushing and shoving each other.

cheers

Gordon

[Tim82]

 Definitely over £50. £60 0r £70?

[Tim82]

£40 monthly

 

[Tim82]

 I felt like your avatar when I read that, Stan!! 

[ronnie paton]

two will do this in less than a hour £25 per man if he pays 10 per hour he gets 30 per hour, take out vat and out goings he prob makes £15 per hour for each team of two x 4 teams(8 staff) thats £60 a hour for doing not much!!

My point is the more staff you have the less you can do the work for

[seandyer2003]

Well the person i was having the discussion with has most of the commercial around here and his price is 50.00 and got the job i think.

he does tuns of work like this has 3 vans on the road and about 8 staff  dont no how he does it for that price but he does... his work is good too as i used to work for him.


dave

If its £50 for an hour half, whats the big problem, sure we all want to milk it for as much as poss but if hes getting the work and running a successful business then theres no problem, most commercial jobs ive been in for ive been to dear, most are cheap!! but have alot of work!

[Captain Scarlet]

not only do you ruin it for yourself but also everybody else pricing so low. You get less than you deserve. If everybody charged high, people would have no choice.

[NWH]

not only do you ruin it for yourself but also everybody else pricing so low. You get less than you deserve. If everybody charged high, people would have no choice.

At last sense and someone who see`s it,i`ve changed my mind i`ll do it for a fiver. :

[ronnie paton]

not only do you ruin it for yourself but also everybody else pricing so low. You get less than you deserve. If everybody charged high, people would have no choice.

this is why we get overpriced and ripped off on everythin

[ftp]

What makes me laugh is that the guys who quoted the highest (one in particular) and likes to think of himself as an expert would be earning somewhere in the realms of close to five hundred pounds a day yet is he or are they vat registered? Are they investing heavily in their business? Do they run the latest equipment and new vans? No? why is that? - Billy Ballpoopters most of them. One or two exeptions granted.  :

[NWH]

It`s not a case of ripping people off it`s a case of doing the job at the right price or rightish,someone goes along and gets to know that mr X is quoting X and so on,4-5 quotes down the line what started off as a good job ends up being not worth doing.

[Captain Scarlet]

I would go for £140-150 and if they said no, well what have i got to loose, nothing. Because a very important lesson my dad taught me was theres always somebody round the corner who will be willing to pay more for a "proper" service.

[Captain Scarlet]

I dont clean many of the large prominent buildings in my area, these jobs have been taken up by companies who in some cases are willing to do the job for half the price I am, and Im even quicker than many of them too. But I have smaller jobs that pay double or if not more. I used to get frustrated that I couldnt get some of the larger jobs but I soon learnt that these werent the types of jobs I wanted because somebody round the corner would accept my "higher" prices.

[NWH]

What makes me laugh is that the guys who quoted the highest (one in particular) and likes to think of himself as an expert would be earning somewhere in the realms of close to five hundred pounds a day yet is he or are they vat registered? Are they investing heavily in their business? Do they run the latest equipment and new vans? No? why is that? - Billy Ballpoopters most of them. One or two exeptions granted.  :

I do and have done these kind of jobs for years so i know what i`m on about,if i quoted 40-£50 they simply would not take the quote or they wouldn`t give me the job they would think i was having a laugh and i`m not lying think what you like.I don`t know where you live i couldn`t be bothered to look but where i work the price i would quote would be average,most quotes would be higher.You have to understand that there is a big difference in prices in different parts of the country £40 regardless of time taken to clean that building is ridiculous.

[ftp]

I would agree £40 is low but i feel the other end of the scale is high. As a maintenance clean you would be on something like eighty pounds an hour. I have work at fifty pounds an hour but only one job. If every job was at those top end prices then you would be way above the vat threshold you could average fifty pounds an hour all day long. Do you average that?

[NWH]

Lol there`s more than 1 way to skin the VAT,i mean cat lol.

[gordonswindows]

riahehttrepuR

i love this attitude...........what have i got to loose?

your income your home your car your etc etc

it is great to say " i won't do this job for less than £100" i will price high and if i get it i get it  and if i don't what have i lost? nothing.

you lose the work and work is the same as when you are looking for a new job.It is easier to get a job if you are already working but if you are sitting at home scratching your behind you struggle. If you are out cleaning windows other people see you or hear about your good work and then they want you and it all begins to snowball.I am not suggesting you do a "loss leader" no ,make a profit of course but even a small profit is a gain.
A small profit can go towards paying bills or buying food , sitting on your behind hiding behind your pride pays for nothing.

With regards to the others who think if we all price high the client will have no choice but to pay these prices i have news for you, they either will not have their windows cleaned at all or they will do their domestic windows themselves or they will teach their own staff to do the job and there will be no such thing as window cleaners, just a few specialist firms.

The point made by somebodies Father while valid is rare if at all. To pay for a more costly service is only for the have's not for the average have nots. Or to put another way why are most of the excellent customer service local shops all closing down yet the self service CHEAP supermarkets are booming.

Where do you shop?

[ftp]

What facilities manager in his/her right mind is going to laugh at a low quote? I can't see the logic in that. My son is an electrician, they quoted a job at £1100 Someones undercut them - £400 for the job. Guess who got the job?

[dave0123]

the 400 quid fella 


and thats for electrics  : something you want done right not on the cheap.. not saying the 400 pound job wont be as good as the 1100 pound one but in window cleaning there just going to go for the lowest prices management companies etc

[Captain Scarlet]

i love this attitude...........what have i got to loose?

your income your home your car your etc etc

no this attitude means you dont risk them things because you earn more. Anyway Im 18 so I dont have a home!!! but my dad can worry about that stuff!!!