[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

I think it`s quite awhile ago now that someone said with powder
Coated window frames therč`s more chance of `spotting`with WFP.
As opposed to upvc frames.I`m noticing that myself sometimes,
Unless I spend more time and use more water rinsing.Even then,
It seems in the top left and right hand of the frames there`s some
Spotting that I just can`t quite get rid of.Does anyone else have
This experience,if so whats the cause.?
Thanks for replies.


Lewis  Doubtfire  Gleem  Clean  ( The Blade Runner )

[NWH]

All this rinse rinse and more rinse myth is rubbish Lewis,if a window will come good it will come good with 1 rinse unless it`s a really bad first clean.

[Oakley Windows]

Rinse it Lewis, the rinse it again. If thats not enough rinse some more


Actually, to be honest I think its in the scrubbing, a good thorough scrubbing gets anything that can come off the agitation required to loosen it, then a good thorough rinse, following cleans shouldnt pose a problem.

Matt

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Nigel ( I think ? ) NWH, what is a bad first clean?
I`ve been doing this one particular job for nearly
3 years now.Sometimes I`ve had to `blade`them they
Were so bad !
Matt, this mornings clean,I did as I said rinse extra,but
There`s something,well like I say it`s near the top of
The frames


Lewis Doubtfire Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Forgot,to mention,it dos`nt happen on UPVC much
If there`s spotting it`s hydraphobic glass I guess

Lewis  Doubtfire  gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )

[NWH]

Powder coated ali frames is it,they will drive you round the bend with spotting they look lovely when there wet lol.

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Yes,that’s right,ali,just wonder if it`s some sort of capillary
Action from the frames? It`s why I try to miss the frames
Altogether.

Lewis Doubtfire  Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )

[NWH]

You only have to get water on the frame anywhere and it will leach out from them at the sides and top in my experience,if it`s to high to blade i would tell them this if not i would only blade them if it was top earner.

[Wayne Thomas]

To stop white milky haze on these windows: scrub window frame & glass, lift brush 'just off' the frame and rinse over the top & side seals first, then brush back on or off (personal preference) and rinse glass avoiding touching the seals with your brush to leave a good result without the milky haze.

Hot wfp definitely accelerates the removal of paint on these frames and leaves worse results than cold water unless I use the method I descibed above to avoid hazy glass

[[GQC] Tim]

Let me get this straight Wayne. You lift the brush off the frame, and rinse just the top and side seals? Or do you rinse the frame with the brush off as well? Or just wash it when your washing the frame?

How would this work with wooden windows that have no seals? What do you do then? I'm finding it an immense struggle to clean these, even if I don't touch the top frame when rinsing, it always seems to leach on to the glass. 

[Wayne Thomas]

Let me get this straight Wayne. You lift the brush off the frame, and rinse just the top and side seals? Or do you rinse the frame with the brush off as well? Or just wash it when your washing the frame?

How would this work with wooden windows that have no seals? What do you do then? I'm finding it an immense struggle to clean these, even if I don't touch the top frame when rinsing, it always seems to leach on to the glass. 

I wash any and all types of windows with the exception of 'milky windows' with my brush 'on' the glass for both scrubbing and rinsing regardless of whatever height I'm cleaning.

When it comes to 'milky white haze ' windows: I scrub the frames and glass with brush 'on' to loosen the dirt. Then I lift my brush just slightly away from the window to rinse 'just the top frame and both sides where the edging seals are (about 12 inches in from the seal into the glass pane itself).
It's important not to let the brush bristles touch the frame when rinsing 'off' as that is what agitates the paint.
Rinsing water (brush off) around the perimeter of the seal just brings down the dirty water, not the paint.
To finish the window, I put my brush back on the glass and rinse 4 inches inset from the frame near the top and work my way back to the bottom and lift away near the bottom seal. Cleaning this way minimises problems associated with 'milky white haze' IMO.
Hope you understood what I'm babbling on about