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JSMC

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400ltr upright in a vivaro
« on: September 03, 2008, 03:39:48 pm »
anyone have any pictures of this tank in a vivaro van?

i would like to see how it fits in up bear the bulkhead of the van next to the side loading door.is the tank fitted central or moved over more to the RHS to avoid step going into van

[GQC] Tim

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 03:44:47 pm »
(I know this is not what you were asking But I would go for at least a 500l tank, preferably a 650 for future expansion, when doing commercial you'll empty the 400 too quickly.)

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 03:57:49 pm »
i have tank and cage already.

LWC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 04:07:29 pm »
i know that ian (window washers) has his tank in the middle as of the van, like not across the van, pointing forward so has room either side

NWH

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 05:43:13 pm »
Who`s going to have pictures of that,plenty of 650ltrs i would go bigger for that van.

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 05:44:05 pm »
majority of my work is shops so no need to go bigger. more hassel to use WFP if being honest doing shops

LWC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 05:59:39 pm »
although this will annoy ya, you shoulda gone bigger fella but with that much space theres no reason why you couldnt carry a few 25 litre barrels ;)

Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 08:44:04 am »
You should be able to fit it centrally.

We did a Vivaro (53 plate) yesterday.

We fitted a 650 which is the same width as a 400 and it fitted without overhanging the step. You will have to drop the fuel tank to fit it securely. We used 20 x M12 bolts evenly spaced around the bottom of the frame mostly picking up on chassis and cross members.

Andrew

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 10:14:04 am »
andrew was this close up against the bulkhead?

Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 10:21:55 am »
No.  About a foot back from the bulkhead

Andrew

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 06:54:27 pm »
andrew what length bolts are required? I'd imagine you would need to cut them down to size as the fule tank may foul them when put back on.


Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 07:57:23 pm »
andrew what length bolts are required? I'd imagine you would need to cut them down to size as the fule tank may foul them when put back on.



I don't do the fitting of the frame to floor myself. I leave that to the pro's so to be honest I don't know. Find a local stockist of bolts etc. They usually keep all sorts of lengths in stock. Drop the tank and measure the lengths you need of each bolt then pop round and get what you need.

Sorry I can't help anymore.

Andrew

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 01:43:11 pm »
spoke with a friend who is a technical teacher and fabricates stuff etc. He said best bet is to  get U style bolts which will wrap around the chassis. He was telling me that by drilling the chassis even though the inserts are in the chassis with the bolt there will be considerable strain on it as the vehicle moves.

he said if you can avoid drilling the chassis

Alex Gardiner

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 02:46:24 pm »
spoke with a friend who is a technical teacher and fabricates stuff etc. He said best bet is to  get U style bolts which will wrap around the chassis. He was telling me that by drilling the chassis even though the inserts are in the chassis with the bolt there will be considerable strain on it as the vehicle moves.

he said if you can avoid drilling the chassis


Couldn't agree more. Keeping the integrity of the chassis is of great importance. You can get high tensile U bolts, but they are not cheap in the size needed!

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 02:54:13 pm »
www.tubeclip.co.uk/Pages/UBolts01.html
my mate reckons this is what i should be going for. He reckons 2 of these on each main chassis rail and the rest to be done by spreader plates, nuts and bolts.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2008, 10:52:58 pm »
www.tubeclip.co.uk/Pages/UBolts01.html
my mate reckons this is what i should be going for. He reckons 2 of these on each main chassis rail and the rest to be done by spreader plates, nuts and bolts.

I'm pretty sure Ionic's fit their spreader plates through the chassis, and they've got the thingamajig certification. So I really wouldn't worry too much about it.

JSMC

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 03:54:57 pm »
got U bolts manufacture dto go aorund chassis rails at 4 different points and the res twill be spreade plates.

U bolts cost £42 with postage included in price to scotland. This should be a good wayu of fitting this into van i reckon

lovewindows

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Re: 400ltr upright in a vivaro
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2008, 02:07:04 pm »
got an 800 litre in back of vivaro , plus 2 100mt hoses , 2 man system double pumps and resin 40 RO, not much space left ,but not needed anyway. 
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon