[Sir Squeaky]

Advantages of WFP:

No damage to sills
No damage to lawns/flowerbeds with ladders
No fairy washing up liquid stains left on sills
No looking for water to fill up the bucket
No Frames cleaned every time
No wiping dry
No ladder knee
Make more money "lots more"
shall I go on.......

Advantages of trad:

NONE imo

What about dry, finished (in the customers eyes) windows?

[Wayne Thomas]

Advantages of WFP:

No damage to sills
No damage to lawns/flowerbeds with ladders
No fairy washing up liquid stains left on sills
No looking for water to fill up the bucket
No Frames cleaned every time
No wiping dry
No ladder knee
Make more money "lots more"
shall I go on.......

Advantages of trad:

NONE imo

What about dry, finished (in the customers eyes) windows?

Easy: HOT wfp

[LWC]

i was surpised the other day, saw a hot wfp

he wiped his door and window with micro fibre, rinsed with hot and it was dry in seconds and extremly clean

i can see why you guys say how much better ad quicker it is

[Sir Squeaky]

Sounds good, but don't forget hot water freezes much quicker in the winter.

[cat9921]

i wonder why a trad window cleaner earned around 200 a day .now he has a wig on a stick he wants to earn 500 in half a day .i appreciate that the van and equipment is expensive but why rip off the people who pay your wages .and what about your heavy handed canvassing approach .PLEASE SIGN HERE FOR THE NEXT TWELVE MONTH ,does not matter how hard you try they will always come back to there cheery reliable traditional window cleaner ,so all you water fed pole window cleaners feel free to reply   ;Dso if anyone out there in the lancashire area wanting to give away all the wfp clients they have lost think im on to my first million 

You know how to put the cat amongst the pigeons 

If there is WFP cleaners out there asking people to sign up then I agree with you....

I do not see this trad window cleaner against WFP.... Trad is an excellent tool and yes there are benefits over WFP .. But WFP is also a tool and has benefits over Trad

I use them both and both do the job well..

One last think, I do honestly think WFP is the future keep an open mind and you never know you might look at your round and think about WFP on some of your work... Remember that a lot of us was trad only but went to WFP

all the best 

Adders Rinse and Clean

[NWH]

Leave Tony alone he`s alright,he just gets a bit humpy when his Mrs kicks him down the other end of the room that`s when he comes on here with the raving ump lol.

[Clive McDonald]

I thought it a good point, was he talking about you NWH?

and I don't know what commercial in confidence means either ewan, is it another tax dodgeing scam?

[cat9921]

Advantages of WFP:

No damage to sills
No damage to lawns/flowerbeds with ladders
No fairy washing up liquid stains left on sills
No looking for water to fill up the bucket
No Frames cleaned every time
No wiping dry
No ladder knee
Make more money "lots more"
shall I go on.......

Advantages of trad:

NONE imo

I would not say that Trad has NO advantages  :

WFP can only clean certain windows where trad can clean all, Also for simplisity trad wins hands down, then there is inside work

So yes WFP is excellent but Trad has got its good points  

[[GQC] Tim]

I can do pretty much any window with wfp, only if they are in the worst condition then the finish isn't as good.

You try doing windows over porches trad, or set back dormers, or second, third, heck 5th floor. Wfp can do a lot more windows then trad. Trad can do all? I don't think so.

[peter holley]

Sounds good, but don't forget hot water freezes much quicker in the winter.

iv heard isopropyl does a very good job...and it stops the water from freezing,  a\nd unlike a gadjet it cant break down

[Londoner]

What I don't understand is why some trad cleaners get so angry about WFP. If its as rubbish as they go to great lengths to point out so what?

[simon123]

I think trad and wfp are both good methods to have at your fingertips , after all some jobs are suited to one or the other sometimes 

[bumper]

Advantages of WFP:

No damage to sills------------------------------------- use ladder mittons
No damage to lawns/flowerbeds with ladders-- carry a piece of wood
No fairy washing up liquid stains left on sills------always wipe down
No looking for water to fill up the bucket----------lazy fooker
No Frames cleaned every time-----------------------frames extra
No wiping dry-------------------------------------------i always dry the zills for a first class job
No ladder knee-----------------------------------------fit as a butchers dog me
Make more money "lots more"----------------------i make enough money 

shall I go on.......


Advantages of trad:

NONE imo

[kris martin]

i do both ways and have to say i like doing both ways.

[cat9921]

Advantages of WFP:

No damage to sills------------------------------------- use ladder mittons
No damage to lawns/flowerbeds with ladders-- carry a piece of wood
No fairy washing up liquid stains left on sills------always wipe down
No looking for water to fill up the bucket----------lazy fooker
No Frames cleaned every time-----------------------frames extra
No wiping dry-------------------------------------------i always dry the zills for a first class job
No ladder knee-----------------------------------------fit as a butchers dog me
Make more money "lots more"----------------------i make enough money 

shall I go on.......


Advantages of trad:

NONE imo

 

I have missed you bumper

So you like Trad then  

[prestigeclean]

i really don,t understand why you trad guys are so green with envy , i suppose it hits you everytime you get back in your beaten up motor and for the umpteeth time it won,t start lol

[cat9921]

Trad can do all? I don't think so.

Sorry Tim I did not explain it well, What I meant was this...
WFP can only do a good job if the frames are good, you said so yourself that you had a job and its got bad frames the finish is not that good  But trad can clean all windows if you can get to it , As for this cleaning 5th storys,what about 44th floor and so on. you need to absail down and use trad tools. So if you can get to a window trad can clean it

Good point about window above conserv that is one of WFP strengths 

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

BUMPER

A piece of wood   You have got to be joking.

[pingu]

Why oh why 

Everyone on here secretly knows trad is far superior to wfp , end of argument 

I think I'll take a little 'forum holiday' until the trolls move on...I move into my new house on Monday so decorating will be the name of the game....

See you all in a while...happy holidays...

Cheers
Dave.

[brett walker]

at the end of the day trad and wfp both do an excellent job if used correctly, if you dont use your equipment right you will get bad results

agreed wfp isnt suitable for very window but it has more advantages than trad and also is much safer, i think the money part only comes down to how you work is priced

a lot more customers seem to prefere trad its because of what theyve been used to and the big factor i think is the dry finish but youve got to be a good trad cleaner to get good results.

use what methord which is suitable for your work, job done!

Brett.