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Wayne Thomas

Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2008, 08:21:30 pm »
Kev, how do you find the Omnicam?

Used my Ionics upkeeper today at 30ft at a really awkward angle over a very, very, wide pitched roof. Done the job ok but there's a few improvements I need to make to it to make it simpler to use. I won't mention what changes I'm making to it until it's all complete and I've overcome my challenges.

Kevin R

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2008, 08:34:09 pm »
Kev, how do you find the Omnicam?

Used my Ionics upkeeper today at 30ft at a really awkward angle over a very, very, wide pitched roof. Done the job ok but there's a few improvements I need to make to it to make it simpler to use. I won't mention what changes I'm making to it until it's all complete and I've overcome my challenges.

So you've decided to go Omnivac........... LOL  ;D ;D ;D

The Omnicam is a good bit of kit. On 99% of gutters I do its fantastic but I am thinking of possibly adding some form of light as a couple of really deep gutters on overcast days have caught me out.  ;D ;D

Only joking about the Omnivac  ;D


Wayne Thomas

Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2008, 08:48:25 pm »
Omnivac or Ionics or a mixture of both. I'm really not bothered which I use.

I have an Omnipole 36ft pressure washing pole which I use with a petrol pressure washer anyway.

I'll use whatever it takes to make gutter work even easier, even if it means using parts from both systems and mixing/combining them together to get the best from both suppliers.

It's a learning curve, the more I use it, the more problems I'm discovering, which I need to resolve to make the job easier the next time around, to make life easier as I suffer from arthritus and am very determined not to let anything get the better of me. I have three ideas in my head to sort out the three problems I come across today, so that next time I use it I won't have them three same problems :)  I hate anything getting the better of me. Where there's a will, there's a way ;)

jouk45

Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2008, 09:30:45 pm »
found this on the nett looks good and cheap to use for guttering,
www.spycameracctv.com/spycamera/wireless-birdbox-day-night-hidden-camera-receiver

col222

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2008, 09:34:25 pm »
It looks like a useful idea. Plumbers and car mechanics also use a dentists mirror on a telescopic rod like a car aerial to look for leaks etc behind awkward areas like baths and engine compartments.
I also had a couple of ideas - one is a clamp which can hold a paintbrush (which can be dipped in gutter sealant to seal small gutter leaks and brushed on the gutter from ground level using the pole). Also, wouldn't it be slightly easier if the were a couple of small adjustable wheels which could be attached near the top of the pole and leant against the wall to take the lateral strain off the pole when holding it.

Kevin R

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2008, 09:56:01 pm »
Omnivac or Ionics or a mixture of both. I'm really not bothered which I use.

I have an Omnipole 36ft pressure washing pole which I use with a petrol pressure washer anyway.

I'll use whatever it takes to make gutter work even easier, even if it means using parts from both systems and mixing/combining them together to get the best from both suppliers.

It's a learning curve, the more I use it, the more problems I'm discovering, which I need to resolve to make the job easier the next time around, to make life easier as I suffer from arthritus and am very determined not to let anything get the better of me. I have three ideas in my head to sort out the three problems I come across today, so that next time I use it I won't have them three same problems :)  I hate anything getting the better of me. Where there's a will, there's a way ;)

Good man - if you need help you know where I am Wayne  ;)

Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2008, 10:53:14 pm »

Also, wouldn't it be slightly easier if the were a couple of small adjustable wheels which could be attached near the top of the pole and leant against the wall to take the lateral strain off the pole when holding it.


I've only had it since about 2:30 today, but I've played with it lots!

There isn't much strain in holding it. It's not like you're staring at it for very long ... probably not more than a couple of minutes ... and it's not very heavy either.... less than 800g.

I've found it easier to just let the pole rest against the side of the gutter and then I can lift it, turn it and tilt it to get the best view.

By angling the mirror I've been able to look either straight down into the gutter or along the length of the gutter.

Of course, other people are going to take the idea and improve it and make it more suitable for their own particular purposes. For myself, I think simpler is better and that addition of wheels would over-complicate things.

I'm not writing a report for a third party or preparing evidence for a tribunal. I'm just inspecting a gutter. A simple guy doing a simple job and thinking that, for me, a simple solution is best!

I can easily understand that wheels would be VERY useful for a camera. A pair of wheels (like a bogey) would locate the camera fairly rigidly in two dimensions and allow for one degree of freedom parallel to the gutter to make a nice smooth video right along its length.

Kevin R

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2008, 11:03:22 pm »
I just lean my pole against the gutter an pull it along much like Wallys mirror. Its easy.

If you did fit wheels would it not catch on some of the joining clips that over lap to the inside of domestic gutters?



jeff1

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2008, 11:13:11 pm »
I just lean my pole against the gutter an pull it along much like Wallys mirror. Its easy.

If you did fit wheels would it not catch on some of the joining clips that over lap to the inside of domestic gutters?



Yes it would I tried it today.

I have 2 different types of wheels, one had just a single groove around it and that was the first one I tried, when it came to a joint I would have to lift it over the joint and spend a few seconds trying to resight it back onto the guttering.
Wheel 2 has a series of six grooves around it, when it came to a joint I was able to roll it over the joint and it would find one of the other grooves its self.
So the answer is to have a series of grooves on a wheel.

Kevin R

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2008, 11:14:30 pm »
I just lean my pole against the gutter an pull it along much like Wallys mirror. Its easy.

If you did fit wheels would it not catch on some of the joining clips that over lap to the inside of domestic gutters?



Yes it would I tried it today.

I have 2 different types of wheels, one had just a single groove around it and that was the first one I tried, when it came to a joint I would have to lift it over the joint and spend a few seconds trying to resight it back onto the guttering.
Wheel 2 has a series of six grooves around it, when it came to a joint I was able to roll it over the joint and it would find one of the other grooves its self.
So the answer is to have a series of grooves on a wheel.

Groovy  ;D

jeff1

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2008, 11:15:43 pm »
I asked for that  ;D ;D

Kevin R

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2008, 11:20:22 pm »

Londoner

Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2008, 08:30:48 am »
Don't I remember somebody on here a while back saying that Maplin do a wireless TV camera and monitor for about £100?

I was going to look into it but like all these things it never quit happened

Kevin R

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2008, 11:33:45 am »
Don't I remember somebody on here a while back saying that Maplin do a wireless TV camera and monitor for about £100?

I was going to look into it but like all these things it never quit happened

Thats where I got my first wireless camera and monitor from. The problems with it are its really hard to hold the pole and the monitor at the same time. Its hard to see the monitor in bright light conditions. Electrical interference was a problem for us with the wireless version. Also most of these cameras are not waterproof which makes gutter cleaning hard on the rainy days.

They are ok for a starter but they will become annoying on bigger jobs.

jeff1

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2008, 01:05:54 pm »
Don't I remember somebody on here a while back saying that Maplin do a wireless TV camera and monitor for about £100?

I was going to look into it but like all these things it never quit happened
I bought mine from Maplins, use the external cameras and you won't get the problems Kev had.

col222

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2008, 08:46:07 pm »
Can the Maplins system also record & burn onto DVD?

gsw

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Re: Gutter inspection tool
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2008, 09:28:47 pm »
Wally I thought you were going to make one of these????????



jeff can we have a close up of how that camera is attached to the pole??? would be well helpful if I didn't have to knacker 2 or 3 units to get it right!!!

thanks

greg

jeff1

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Re: Gutter inspection tool New
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2008, 10:16:18 pm »
Can the Maplins system also record & burn onto DVD?
No, not unless you purchase a small monitor/dvd recorder, always check when buying CCTV systems that they record 1v peak to peak (this one does so can be used to record the images)

Wally I thought you were going to make one of these????????



jeff can we have a close up of how that camera is attached to the pole??? would be well helpful if I didn't have to knacker 2 or 3 units to get it right!!!

thanks

greg
Sorry Greg just got home.
OK how I fitted it was I attatched the camera to a cycle lamp bracket with cable ties then you just slip the clamp over the end of your pole and fasten the clamp.