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davep

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carlton care

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 02:46:43 pm »
Depends what product you're using and to some extent whose training you wish to follow. Also, whether the work is in the client's home or your workshop.


davep

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2008, 02:49:08 pm »
Furmiture clinic products, school of Moss, now i have a sofa to practice on i need to get a compressor but there seem to be loads out there..


John Gregory

Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2008, 02:57:48 pm »
I've just bought a clarke indy air from machine mart think it was about a oner , and a gravity fed air brush off ebay ,  not used it yet but I am hoping it will do the job

John

davep

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2008, 03:23:21 pm »
Is that this one?

htt p://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/indy-air-spray-kit

John Gregory

Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2008, 03:25:07 pm »
here's a picture mate


John Gregory

Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2008, 03:31:44 pm »
a little bit , but you care's, I don't do a lot of work in Libraries

John

davep

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2008, 04:02:09 pm »
Wonder if this is any good?

ht tp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COMPLETE-AIRBRUSH-KIT-AIR-BRUSH-COMPRESSOR_W0QQitemZ310067498704QQihZ021QQcategoryZ33919QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

*paul_moss

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2008, 04:32:07 pm »
Dave
go for this one
ebay no. 150272274748 its quiet and quite powerful.

I have one of these 290244285789  , they are upwards of 200 quid but you can use 2 guns with it. If this one does not go too high then get it( I think it will sell for around 70 quid)
 
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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John Gregory

Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2008, 04:52:11 pm »
Paul , will the set up I got do the job ?

John

davep

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2008, 05:41:12 pm »
Paul is this similar?

170240023053

The guts only a mile away so no postage, bit tight you see.. 

Got a pigmented chair a cat ran over with paint on its paws to play with (the chair not the cat  ;D)

*paul_moss

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2008, 06:37:04 pm »
Yer dave that one is ok ( I have one of those too) The one that has the tank on is better as the air flow is more consistant ( you dont need to wait for it to build up).

John yours looks ok, as long as it sprays thats all you need. See you have bought the little air brush, they are great for under 20 quid and will do most jobs.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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John Gregory

Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2008, 06:44:00 pm »
Thanks Paul   ,  1 more question what psi should we be spraying at

thanks   John


*paul_moss

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2008, 07:05:05 pm »
Most machines power between 15 and 100 psi, that is not an issue as you can adjust the force with the control switch on most guns.

Nozzel sizes are betweem 0.25 ( it is millimetres Dave ;)) and 0.75
I use a few different guns from large 0.75 ones down to 0.25 but My favourite all rounder is 0.3
which is this gun on ebay
300242826266 
It is as good as the £150 guns.I prefere the gun type to th pen type guns and also find better flow from gravity fed guns rather than suction fed as they tend to spit more with lower psi an smaller compresors.
 
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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davep

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LTT Leathercare

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2008, 07:29:38 pm »
Always used a badger airbrush for even the largest jobs, run off a mini compressor from Machine Mart, find they do not overspray and are very quick and easy to keep clean, very economical on product.

Andy has tried many different airbrushes over the years including very expensive ones but always gone back to the badger.  These little airbrushes run very well off a large compressor too with a braided air hose.  We find they last us about 3-5 years in the workshop before they need replacing and they are used most days.  Spares are also readily available if needed.  Generally they can be celaned out in about 1 minute after use and if this is done will only need a serious clean about once a month.

Some product is very thick but the addition of water (for water based produscts) usually means they are OK.  BRIT restoration pigments go through with no problem but it is often wise to filter product first as pigment can settle and cause blockages

Hope this helps
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Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
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*paul_moss

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2008, 08:02:40 pm »
I use FC pu dye and finish ,you dont have to filter them ( and why should you have to).
Thinking about it I think i will sell my kit and buy a £5 Badger, also I will sell he truck and buy a rug doctor, sell the CFR and use a Numatic plastic one. ;D
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Leather recolouring tools
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2008, 08:24:10 pm »
I've had 2 of the badger sprayers and they have bothed got 'culled' but I like the one Paul recommeded to me, spraying is easier and more consistant even with the same compressor.

I have a Clark wiz but I think I might upgrade to the one shown.

Shaun