after reading the posts on "this won't do" thread all I can say is to be a good w/c you need to be able to use both IMO, its no good saying 1 is better than the other, some jobs r easier trad, some wfp, its all down to individual preferences as to which method you use. At the mo, I find wfp takes longer , but then I've recently been off 2 months so I'm having to clean frames before glass which is taking longer, also for speed I'm doing ups wfp and downstairs trad on some jobs