[CC Windows]

Just joined the forum so firstly may I say hello!

Need a bit of advice, I have just ordered the following items

Unger Opti-Loc 3 Part Pole extends to 8.3m
Unger Angled Adaptor
Fixi Clamp - Unger
Unger Visa Versa

Now on paper, I can now clean the ups without having to set foot on any ladders again, as I have everything on the end of a pole, from washer and squeege right down to the scrim and leather!

Anyone have any experience with this, I dont want my standard to drop and I Brought this kit to get to hard to reach windows, but if I can do every window, then it saves on ladder work and creates a safer enviroment for me and my customers!

Thanks in advance

Nige

[Xline Systems]

i think this is a good alternative to the water fed pole, although i think this method would be alot slower if you was to use it all the time to an alternative to ladders. and it would be alot harder to get as good results

[CC Windows]

I have thought about just how longer it would take compared to ladders, if it was a little longer I wouldnt be bothered as I'm more bothered about safety and eliminating any risk for damage etc caused by ladders slipping or human error!

[Xline Systems]

i think you could pick up speed after time if you stuck with it. i think you would find it hard to get as good results tho.
welcome to the forum by the way. i think most people will advise you to buy a fwp setup. its the future.
good luck

[CC Windows]

Water fed will happen, but for the time being its the traditional way for me! so this seems like the next best thing in safety terms and I think it would give a more professional look to me and my business!

I will be practising on my own property with the pole before I try on a customers!

[Neil271052]

You will never get as good a trad job done with a pole than up close from a ladder.

Fine for difficult access windows but for all 1st floor windows?.........I don't think so.

[Oakley Windows]

To be honest, the thought terrifies me.

Theres NO WAY you could get as good results, if you could, ladders would never have been used.

[CC Windows]

To be honest, the thought terrifies me.

Theres NO WAY you could get as good results, if you could, ladders would never have been used.

Why does it terrify you? it's called finding new and alternative ways to make my own health safer, and my customers property safer and less chance of any damage too!

Regards the time thing, the time saved from getting the ladders off and on the roof of the van all day, moving from job to job, and then dodgying the usual things around the house with you're ladders would surely make up for the extra time spent on cleaning?

[Oakley Windows]

To be honest, the thought terrifies me.

Theres NO WAY you could get as good results, if you could, ladders would never have been used.

Why does it terrify you? it's called finding new and alternative ways to make my own health safer, and my customers property safer and less chance of any damage too!

Regards the time thing, the time saved from getting the ladders off and on the roof of the van all day, moving from job to job, and then dodgying the usual things around the house with you're ladders would surely make up for the extra time spent on cleaning?

Because Ive been a trad window-cleaner for 10 years working off ladders, its a skill, some might say an art-form (well the old biddies that watch me do) but yo put that blade on the end of a 10' pole and theres gonna be no  end of errors and mis-haps ALL magnified 10 fold because of the distance from you to the end of the pole. What you MIGHT have been able to get away with before.....well..... try..... see..... come back and report your findings.

[birdymiller]

Give it a try mate. If it doesnt work out then you can use all the new gear on windows that are awkward. Ive got a trolley system that i am currently getting used to. Im not entirely convinced about wfp as opposed to trad. I still only use it on awkward houses as it seems alot of messing about compared to trad. The hose thing reeling and unreeling is a pain. Im tempted to get a backpack but cant justify investing anymore in wfp at moment. Im just going to give it more time with the trolley. I bought all the stuff like you have for the same reason but couldnt do leaded windows so i got the trolley. I think you can get good results using this method, let us know how you get on. Welcome to the forum and be prepared to get shot down. There are some very helpful postees on here and there are some not very helpful as well. Good luck

[CC Windows]

To be honest, the thought terrifies me.

Theres NO WAY you could get as good results, if you could, ladders would never have been used.

Why does it terrify you? it's called finding new and alternative ways to make my own health safer, and my customers property safer and less chance of any damage too!

Regards the time thing, the time saved from getting the ladders off and on the roof of the van all day, moving from job to job, and then dodgying the usual things around the house with you're ladders would surely make up for the extra time spent on cleaning?

Because Ive been a trad window-cleaner for 10 years working off ladders, its a skill, some might say an art-form (well the old biddies that watch me do) but yo put that blade on the end of a 10' pole and theres gonna be no  end of errors and mis-haps ALL magnified 10 fold because of the distance from you to the end of the pole. What you MIGHT have been able to get away with before.....well..... try..... see..... come back and report your findings.

Hence why I said I would be looking into refining it on my own property, if it works then great, then if not then I dont put the ladders away just yet!

[CC Windows]

Give it a try mate. If it doesnt work out then you can use all the new gear on windows that are awkward. Ive got a trolley system that i am currently getting used to. Im not entirely convinced about wfp as opposed to trad. I still only use it on awkward houses as it seems alot of messing about compared to trad. The hose thing reeling and unreeling is a pain. Im tempted to get a backpack but cant justify investing anymore in wfp at moment. Im just going to give it more time with the trolley. I bought all the stuff like you have for the same reason but couldnt do leaded windows so i got the trolley. I think you can get good results using this method, let us know how you get on. Welcome to the forum and be prepared to get shot down. There are some very helpful postees on here and there are some not very helpful as well. Good luck

Cheers mate!

I brought the gear as I have had enough of putting my own health at risk reaching at windows I shouldnt really be doing, so that was the main reason, but then I thought how better it would be if you could do all first floor windows, I'm far from a new traditional window cleaner but have got to the point where I want to try new things to make my life easier and less dangerous and at the same time my customers properties more safe!

I know what you are saying mate, some people just dont like change 

[birdymiller]

Ive got a well established round and have many customers for 10 years and i am sure that if i cleaned their windows with a less effective way than trad and ladders they would be happy if i explained issues about safety.

[CC Windows]

Ive got a well established round and have many customers for 10 years and i am sure that if i cleaned their windows with a less effective way than trad and ladders they would be happy if i explained issues about safety.

I will keep you informed on how I go, own house first, then upstairs to inspect, any runs or residue water or dirt remaining, then try again lol

[Neil271052]

I think that is the main problem.

Working from a distance you cannot see the little runs or lines from the squeegee unless you are indoors or close up.

I'm not trying to put down your idea as I would love it to work but I don't think it's really feasible.

Let us know how you get on. 

[darragh windows]

you will always need your ladders georgians builders cleans etc

[CC Windows]

I think that is the main problem.

Working from a distance you cannot see the little runs or lines from the squeegee unless you are indoors or close up.

I'm not trying to put down your idea as I would love it to work but I don't think it's really feasible.

Let us know how you get on. 

I'm not 100% that it will work, would love it to as it would make the job alot easier, thats why I ordered the flexi grip attachment because that will hold the scrim, so in theory a quick wipe over and there shouldn't be any runs!

Well heres hoping!

[CC Windows]

you will always need your ladders georgians builders cleans etc

I agree, but if this did 90% of windows then I could cope with 10% ladder work!

Obviously any first cleans would have to be ladder too!

[darragh windows]

you will always need your ladders georgians builders cleans etc

I agree, but if this did 90% of windows then I could cope with 10% ladder work!

Obviously any first cleans would have to be ladder too!

good luck with it hope it works out for you

[stig]

You will never get as good a trad job done with a pole than up close from a ladder.

Fine for difficult access windows but for all 1st floor windows?.........I don't think so.

2nd that