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mark311069

the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« on: July 12, 2008, 12:48:16 pm »
hi guys

i have been thinking of buying the omnipole gutter vac for a while now, and have finally got enough money together for the 36ft vac and camera. but should i get one? nobody in my area has got one so how much work do you think it will bring in? i have several large commercial contracts that are intrested depending on the price. overall iam just not sure and i can come up with loads of fors and against all day. can anybody help me make up my mind??  its a lot of money to spend....

thanks all

Glyn H

Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 01:11:39 pm »
Mark
I am not going to give you a sales pitch.
All I will say is you will get your total investment back in about five days work.
So in real terms its not a lot to invest and it wont take years to be in profit.

mick hay

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 01:15:02 pm »
Glyn, when i get my vac of yourselves, will you be able to give me ideas on getting commercial and other work?

Also the generator you supply says with wheel kit...do you have a pic of that, if its what i think it is, would 1 man be able to wheel it on and off a van?


(sorry to hijack a mo there mark)

Dean Taberner

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2008, 01:33:05 pm »
How much are they? Anybody got a link?
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

STEVE-UK

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2008, 01:33:17 pm »
GLYN H - ive also been thinking about buying a gutter-vac,after talking to KEV R im 95% ready to buy one , after looking at your website im interested in the 48 ' set up

Camera and Omnivac Combination using only one PowerPole

24' complete system £2070.00

30' complete system £2120.00

36' complete system £2170.00

48' complete system £2250.00

All + VAT and carriage

can you clear something up for me, when i phoned up i was told you get a modular style pole with the vac,on this ad its says you get just the  power pole,is that right you just get 1 powerpole and you have to swap from vac set up to camera

cheers steve

Kevin R

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2008, 01:39:54 pm »
I have the full set up, it has paid for its self over and over again.

I would get the 48 ft kit if you can as the higher the work to better the value. Over that its cherry picker time.

I was the first in my area, I currently look after five large commercial companies. One of these clients has 180 properties at three stories and above. I also get many enquiries a week.

I would advertise in your area by investing in a website, as most of my work comes from there.

The generator is a large bit of kit, but its necessary. You can't really lift it by yourself but if you had a ramp it would be fine. I keep mine in a small box trailer as it makes it easy to move around on site, over grass areas where the van can't always go. The small wheels on the generator dig in where as the large tyres on the trailer dont. (you are limited to 40m of 2.5 cable)

There is so much work for this service, go to you local trading estate and look for plants growing out and 9 out of 10 times you'll get the job.

I have stopped doing this now as I have enough from the phone. It won't take you long to get known.

Good luck  ;D




Kevin R

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2008, 01:42:05 pm »
How much are they? Anybody got a link?


ht tp://www.omni-guttervac.com/

Kevin R

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2008, 01:48:26 pm »
The gutter vacuum upright tubing is aluminum and is semi-modular

The power pole (telescopic) can be used to pressure jet, to hold the camera, to hold a gutter spike, or be used  as a support pole or even as a water fed pole!!!

I own 3 power poles, one is 48 ft with 6 x 8 ft sections, this is used on all work over three stories, The other two are 36 ft with 6 x 6 ft sections. These are used as support poles and lower level pressure washing poles, camera poles etc.

If I was starting again I would have bought one 48ft and one 36 ft, but I originally thought the 36's  would be long enough for my needs. 


Steve CM

Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2008, 01:53:30 pm »
how much do you charge per meter for clearing gutters with a vac? i've also been thinking about adding this to my services as i get a lot of gutter jobs that i turn down due to being to dangerous

Kevin R

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2008, 02:00:39 pm »
how much do you charge per meter for clearing gutters with a vac? i've also been thinking about adding this to my services as i get a lot of gutter jobs that i turn down due to being to dangerous

Most of the jobs I do are commercial. We do not charge by the meter, but by time. The minimum fee is four hours work. You can do a massive amount of work in this time. I dont really want to put a price on here but we charge about 4-5 X what you can get in a day cleaning commercial windows.

darren73

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2008, 02:18:42 pm »
hi kev,could you tell me if one man can operate the vac at full stretch(48ft),can you clean house gutters when the slates cover half of the gutter,how long does it take to do an average 3 bed semi,and do you ever use customers electric to save bringing the generator-thanks

darren73

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2008, 02:20:19 pm »
also do you really need the power washer-thanks again

Glyn H

Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 03:17:20 pm »

Hey Mick
Quote
Glyn, when i get my vac of yourselves, will you be able to give me ideas on getting commercial and other work?
I am working on a project at the moment to help purchasers market the service to domestic and commercial customers -our previous purchasers will also be supplied. :)

jeff1

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 03:28:32 pm »
Mark,
With this present climate and with all the rain were having, you will be making a wise investment, My work has doubled this year for guttering.

It doesn't matter about the costs, with a pro system and a good image, it will pay for its self in no time at all.

What a lot of  guy's tend to forget, is your offering a specialist service, many people can often get up a ladder to clean there own windows but ask them to get up there to clean the guttering and that's a different story.

Don't just stop at commercial work, there is loads of it in the domestic market as well.
My advice is go for the kit.

Grafters Cleaning Services

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 03:40:05 pm »
have got one myself i would say go for it ;)
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

Ian Rochester

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 04:01:01 pm »
Just had a look at the system on Omnipoles website, it seems a lot of money for what appears to be basically a Numatic Wet/Dry Vac, a pole, some 2" piping and an upturned U tube.

Am I missing something?

These are basically the items we use for cleaning out high level guttering:

www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=22824E

www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=1573211E

www.northerntooluk.com/products.asp?partno=1807235E

You just need about 15m of 1.5" tubing (type used by carpet cleaners) and a U connector to fit into the gutter and off you go, also a pressure washer, but keep the pressure quite low (under 1000psi otherwise you'll blast everything out of the gutter and it will go everywhere.

Mr H

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Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 04:10:02 pm »
hi guys

i have been thinking of buying the omnipole gutter vac for a while now, and have finally got enough money together for the 36ft vac and camera. but should i get one? nobody in my area has got one so how much work do you think it will bring in? i have several large commercial contracts that are intrested depending on the price. overall iam just not sure and i can come up with loads of fors and against all day. can anybody help me make up my mind??  its a lot of money to spend....

thanks all


If you were going higher then I would say consider the DIY gutter vac as its a lot lighter and can be operated by one man.
If you were on a tight budget then I would say consider the DIY as its cheeper.

www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=51156.0

But if you want a "plug and play" straight out the box type system and you have the money ready then GO FOR THE OMNIVAC.

Lots of useful addons, good backup, fast service, does the job and it looks the part...
(All though I personally think the system would look better with a black hose connector on the vac rather than green or red)

As already stated it will pay for itself very quickly. Yes the price you charge will seem expensive at first but then it is a lot of money to pay out and a lot of learning to do. A bit like when you start with WFP. But the price you charge will still be cheeper than the cost of scaffolding or cherry pickers and plus you will be quicker and cause less disturbance than either of the other options.
If cleaning with via scaffolding will take a day to put up half day to clean and half a day to take down and cost £1000 but you can do the job in just the half day and charge £500 then everyone is happy.
(Only used those prices for ease and not actual costings)

Go to a hire shop and look at their daily charges compared with buying a piece of equipment..... It only takes a couple of hires for them to have recovered the cost of the machinery so why not the same for gutter equipment....?

If no-one else in your area has one then thats an even better reason to get a gutter-vac set up of some sort going. Its a bit late when some-one else has already got the big jobs and contracts sorted out.......

Regards
Mr H


sageorgeta

Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 04:39:04 pm »
I remember on another forum that Glyn threatened to take legal action against anyone who went diy on a gutter vac??? wonder what happened there.

mark311069

Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 05:12:45 pm »
please lets not stray from my original post!!!!!

how much do you charge for a domestic gutter clean on a 3 bed semi ??

and glyn h how long does it take from order to delivery?

thanks for all your posts on this subject

Glyn H

Re: the gutter vac.... should i buy one????
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 06:21:24 pm »
I believe £90.00 - £150 is resonable on a three bed semi - others I am sure will have imput on this.

We can usually supply a system within five working days, dependant on any special requirements that need to be custom made.