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Joe H

Chineese Rug
« on: July 11, 2008, 08:04:44 pm »
Collected this rug to clean - its a chineese rug 5' diameter but has brown speckle marks all over it.

I suspect it has been cleaned before but owner not coughing up to that.

any ideas what the speckles could be and how to get rid of if possible.

one photo taken with flash, the darker one without flash.

Jim_77

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 08:11:50 pm »
Does the discolouration extend a fair way down the tufts or is it confined to just the tips?

Bit difficult to get a feel for it from the pics unfortunately :(

The size of area covered and the shape of the spots doesn't seem to be consistent with dog pee or even a drink spill, weird.

I suppose it may have been a cup of tea that was dropped and landed the right way up and just splattered out in all directions, but normally there's a puddle at the epicentre of the splashes.

Do you think they have put something on it but lied to you?  Sounds a bit suss, I'd drop it like a hot potato if their prime concern is getting rid of these marks.

Have they given you any idea of how the marks got there or just said they haven't got a clue?  It's very rare that they don't have any clue whatsoever, normally they can tell you exactly what it was and how it happened.

What location had the rug been used in?

markpowell

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Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 08:12:52 pm »
I see this often Joe, it may be tea or coffee they have dripped whilst walking with an overflowing cup, usually a nightmare to remove fully ???
Mark

Joe H

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 08:45:21 pm »
The owner has about 5 chineese rugs, the largest being about 12' x 9'
He has given me 2 - to try me out! The other is a 7' x 5' and not too bad.

This circular one - I dont know what position it has been. It was folded on the floor in a bedrom but I there was not enough room there for a 5' circular.

I did ask did he know what it was but nothing positive came forth.
I did inform him that a he didnt know what it was it might be difficult to remove.
I then told him I advertise "stain treatment" not stain removal as not all stains can be removed.
He accepted that, and said he wouldnt worry too much if they did not come out - "try your best"

Jim, the browning only goes about 1 mm down the tufts.

neil 47

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Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 08:54:02 pm »

Joe

I bought one of those a couple of years ago out of the classifieds for about £25
used to clean it with blitz every 6 weeks  due to kids came up a treat even though the colors did eventually fade .
never could get rid of the odd spots like yours .


Neil
IICRC

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 09:03:54 pm »
Joe

You might find just MS will shift it, or I use a rug spotter by Ashby's.

You may hit trouble with POG or citrus gel though.

If you can see it's knotted on the back it would be an ideal rug to try immersion cleaning. Do you have softish water where you are?

Joe H

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 09:41:09 pm »
Hi Mike
Yes, soft water area.
Shot of the back of carpet

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 10:08:55 pm »
Joe

That's fine.

Bear in mind it will take 24hrs to dry even with movers. Get as much moisture out as poss before drying.


lands

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 11:41:02 pm »
Between the eyebrows, me and the Liahona we have decided (we are all in my lounge as we speak) that the spots are cause by previous cleaning and that even a saturation clean will probably not sort.

Lord Liahona's question time is now open (although I am about to post this before I tell him I am going to)

Joe H

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 11:58:48 pm »
I had in my mind it could be perhaps a previous clean but not haing seen browning thro poor drying before I was not clear, also the fact it was spotted.

Ive go the carpet for up to 2 weeks. I have no indoor cleaning facility so need good weather (I can but hope).
As I said previous, it would be good to take it back better then it is, but at end of the day maybe the best it will be is clean but with the marks still there.

Can but try.

Pete, if its your show weekend then I hope it a success for you, sure sounds like you put a lot of effort into it.

lands

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2008, 12:05:50 am »
Thanks

Bit slow today, but did pick up an interior designer  :)

and I learnt just a bit from Dave  ;)

Pete

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2008, 12:56:04 am »
Who knows what those marks are, but it will all come out in the wash no doubt. ;D

Jim_77

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 01:18:31 am »
If it's only 1mm on the tips, trim the buggers down, job done ;)

Joe H

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 07:05:05 am »
I will mow the grass today and just run the machine over the rug at the same time.  :o

kinder clean

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Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 07:36:29 am »

Good idea Joe, but don't get grass stains on it.  ;D

Paul

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 11:31:36 am »
I've heard of an easier way of keeping the grass down.

Spray beer over it............it comes up half-cut ! ;D

Seriously, I've come across that type of marking before, wondered what it was, and been spectacularly unsuccessful in doing anything about them.

Joe , I wish you well and if you have any success then do share.

Roger
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

neil 47

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Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 12:13:50 pm »
why bother cleaning it just throw it in the skip .
this one is £24.99 + £11.99 delivered if you collect it saves you a tenner.

 

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ttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRADITIONAL-CHINESE-PINK-BEIGE-RUGS-120-x-170cm-56-x-4_W0QQitemZ160132677840QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116#ebayphotohosting

Joe why not be honest with them pays off in the end
IICRC

Jim_77

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 12:51:47 pm »
Neil, that's not anything like the rug Joe has posted pictures of.

For a start it's rectangular.

More to the point, it's about as chinese as fish & chips, it's mis-described.  It's made in Belgium...out of... wait for it....

"Berclon Polypropylene".

The pattern is copied from chinese designs.

I was really surprised at your reply, to be honest!

Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 01:25:48 pm »
Joe

I presume you told them you cannot guarantee any stain will come out, especially as they reckon theu don't know what it is. My line is-  well whether they come out or not it will be clean, yeah? And see their reaction. If they don't go along with that pull away until you get agreement or walk.

We always like to please, but not at the cost of our wallet. 


neil 47

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Re: Chineese Rug
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 03:35:15 pm »
Jim

I,ve seen loads of them very popular in the 80s/90s.

Not worth the time when you can pick them up for £20 to £30.

If you have penty of time on your hands and your doing it

a)    because they can bear to part with it

B)   The customer can,t be bothered looking in the papers

c)   it,s a favour

D)  you need the money and figure you can get £40 to £80 for cleaning it

fair enough  ,I wouldn,t bother unless it was   C



Neil

PS It is exactly the same as the rug I had even down to the fading from over cleaning with high ph and heat .

The link was just a quick example
IICRC