[M & C Window Cleaning]

Thanks. I'll remember that as it looks like being a regular twice yearly job.

[Kevin R]

I recently did an inside clean for a gentleman with UPVC frames. He's also a heavy smoker and you can guess the state of the frames which he also wanted cleaning. I used Ettorre Squeegee Off and it was fantastic at getting off the nicotine stains. Brought the frames up lovely real quick. However, I had a limited supply of Squeegee Off on me and ran out just before I finnished. I used Fairy to finish the last frame. It was absolutely awful. Sticky horrible mess it made. Left my hands in a right mess too.

Ettorre Squeegee Off works best for me. Cuts right through the grease.

Ettore squeegee off is a professional window cleaning product designed for purpose - as you found for yourself fairy is not! 

[windowwashers]

Thanks. I'll remember that as it looks like being a regular twice yearly job.

you will be shocked by it, I was I showed my wife on one window in our new house and she does not clean windows at all, it messes her hair up and scratched her nails : well I cam back from work and she had massive grin "look at these windows" she did 2 windows that were brown/yellow fAg stained and they was back to gliming white, now if she says its great and does the job (first time ever) it works lol

try it let me know your results, sugar soap white scouring pad jobs a good'um 

[paulscotney]

Just looked in garage. the SYR Slide professional window cleaning detergent I bought about 12 years ago is still there. Just doesn't slide at all, not enough friction reducer in it.

I bought some Unger professional detergent about 6 month ago. That doesn't slide either. Ended up throwing it away. Both just catch and leave smears whilst Fairy liquid, in its favour,  does slide over the window without leaving smears.

I will buy some GG now though to see if that is any good.

[elite mike]

my mate swears by unger .i think its rubbish

gg for me

[cleanandshine]

it is now 2008,   I used if for many years myself and what Kev posted it 100% true, I am not trying to covert just saying it works better for us, less work better finish/lasting 12 years things change fella

What kev said maybe right but il stick to my Fairy,as i said iv used it for 12 years and find it ok ,,

And window washers things might change in 12 years but why fix it if its not broken

[windowwashers]

it is now 2008,   I used if for many years myself and what Kev posted it 100% true, I am not trying to covert just saying it works better for us, less work better finish/lasting 12 years things change fella

What kev said maybe right but il stick to my Fairy,as i said iv used it for 12 years and find it ok ,,

And window washers things might change in 12 years but why fix it if its not broken

progression  : thats like saying why change prices in 12 years.

I am not trying to convert you to using something else we all do things different and I have given my reasons why I dont use fairy washing up liquid anymore.

Ian

[Kevin R]

Just looked in garage. the SYR Slide professional window cleaning detergent I bought about 12 years ago is still there. Just doesn't slide at all, not enough friction reducer in it.

I bought some Unger professional detergent about 6 month ago. That doesn't slide either. Ended up throwing it away. Both just catch and leave smears whilst Fairy liquid, in its favour,  does slide over the window without leaving smears.

I will buy some GG now though to see if that is any good.

The reason it doesn't slide is that you are used to applying a lot of pressure to remove the fairy from the glass. 

If you got used to applying the correct pressure, you would notice less fatigue, do a better job with less effort and not have much detailing to do if any.

If you want to change over you need to re-train your brain. Just add a little more of the professional solution of your choice and start to reduce it over a week or two to get the hang of it.

If you tried fairy again after getting used to gg3 you would never go back 

[Wayne Thomas]

At least with Fairy, if the customers came the old game.. "not this time", you'd just add a lot more Fairy the next time and before you knew it, the moaning customer was back to a regular clean

Can't do that with wfp, shame

[Kevin R]

At least with Fairy, if the customers came the old game.. "not this time", you'd just add a lot more Fairy the next time and before you knew it, the moaning customer was back to a regular clean

Can't do that with wfp, shame

You know Wayne your a cutting edge bloke with some cracking ideas and you love the Fairy!!!! Shock and horror 

[paulscotney]

I am 100% wfp now mainly domestics, except for insides,which are rare except inside of two office buildings. 
I did commercial only for 10 years, inside and out, and never normally detailed with Fairy and never had a problem with it. I used to stick ammonia in when doing dirty jobs and that does clean.

[paulscotney]

Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water

[Kevin R]

its GG3 to mix with soft (pure) water and gg4 to mix with hard water.

I live in a soft water area so I have gg3 as I can mix it with tap or pure 

[paulscotney]

Thanks Kevin

[Kevin R]

 

[windowwashers]

Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water

I am in hard water area and use gg4, I also use it with pure

[m.b.s.]

Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water

I am in hard water area and use gg4, I also use it with pure

why use it with pure i use it with tap can i ask why you will know  the answer and you will  be honist to me m8

[Kevin R]

Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water

I am in hard water area and use gg4, I also use it with pure

why use it with pure i use it with tap can i ask why you will know  the answer and you will  be honist to me m8

I just find that pure water and gg3 works better when cold then cold tap water a gg3 on internal jobs.  Hot water would be better than cold so I use hot tap water and gg3 when I have access to it.  I am just about to fit a hot water system which will be even better. I live in a soft water area. The TDS here is 70ppm

I dont know the science but I have one particular job that I have been able to experiment on. Hot tap water is the best mixed with gg3,  then cold with pure and gg3, then cold tap  and gg3. I have not tried hot and pure with gg3 yet.

Hot water does save you time because it makes it easier to remove grease.

I hope this is some help, I wonder if others find the same?

[m.b.s.]

cheers will try with pure