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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #120 on: July 11, 2008, 06:12:39 am »
Yes tanks available. No idea about arranging carriage. I go away next thursday for a holiday.

The tank is mint condition, the dimensions are on the cleantech site- 400l flat.

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #121 on: July 11, 2008, 07:53:44 pm »
where are you up north i bet?

Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2008, 08:12:17 pm »
Northampton

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #123 on: July 11, 2008, 08:18:43 pm »
my grandpearants live there. but i dont visit them :(

i'll look up postage. bear with me

mark dew

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2008, 08:30:23 pm »
my grandpearants live there. but i dont visit them :(

go on. Visit your granparents. They would love to see you.  ;D
You could pick a tank up while your there.


Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2008, 08:49:14 pm »
What postcode are they? Isn't it time the came down to see you?

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2008, 08:57:04 pm »
i dont visit coz they live in a static caraan and theres no room for us to stay so they come to us. but i thought of that only thing is they wont fit a 400ltr tank in the back of the jag. :(

easycleaner

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #127 on: July 12, 2008, 05:06:02 pm »
Hi, Andrew McCann states you cant fit a 350lt upright tank in a kangoo, he's talking rubbish. Ive got one and if its fitted right there's plenty of room for all your gear. Got mine from PureFreedom.
Mart

Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #128 on: July 12, 2008, 05:27:40 pm »
Hi, Andrew McCann states you cant fit a 350lt upright tank in a kangoo, he's talking rubbish. Ive got one and if its fitted right there's plenty of room for all your gear. Got mine from PureFreedom.
Mart

What a numpty you are mate!!!

I NEVER said you can't fit a 350 into a Kangoo. Take the time to actually read whe whole thread and maybe your tiny little brain will allow you to see that there is very limited room to fit a 350 in because the guy wants to keep the racking he already has in the van. In fact he went as far as to do a drawing with the dimensions of the space available.

I try to give good honest advice here and may well have saved the guy a lot of time and money.. Iam sooooooooo pleased that you have a 350 in your Kangoo. By the way you can thank me for that because it was me that got Wydale who manufacture the tanks to make the 350 for just the size and payload of van you have.  ::)

Ohh and sorry Mr D. They made it to the dimensions I gave them  :-[  ;)

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #129 on: July 12, 2008, 06:35:15 pm »
well andrew you will be please to know i took the racking out thisafternoon and  :'( all the way through it.

i then painted the lining pics to follow on my diy site


http ://ww w.freewebs.com/waterfedpole/

i'm planning to keep the racking in some shape or form but to fit it around a 400ltr tank. i'm really we we'd off coz i turned down a 400ltr tank for £40 over a month a go from a mate coz i wanted to keep the racking. teach me not to be such a stubern fool!!

problem i hve now is how the hell am i gonna fix a tank in the back?

i was gonna weld a cage to the racking that would of secured the tank nicely but now i'm gonna have to look at other avernews. i used to have a berlingo it had fixing points in the back this kangoo dont seem to have :( although there are threads to fit bolts in that the ply board was fixed to. do you think i can get eyelets to bolt in and if so are they gonna be strong enough?



mark dew

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #130 on: July 13, 2008, 02:55:38 am »
You would i think be better off using something like this.
www.cleantech.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_25&products_id=90
It cost me £80 at a local garage to get this put in my van.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #131 on: July 13, 2008, 09:35:06 am »

problem i hve now is how the hell am i gonna fix a tank in the back?

i was gonna weld a cage to the racking that would of secured the tank nicely but now i'm gonna have to look at other avernews. i used to have a berlingo it had fixing points in the back this kangoo dont seem to have :( although there are threads to fit bolts in that the ply board was fixed to. do you think i can get eyelets to bolt in and if so are they gonna be strong enough?


I'm glad you're going for the 400 litre tank,... realistically you couldn't go much bigger without worrying about payload,.. but 400 litres will be just enough to keep you going all day if you are careful.

As for fixing it to the van,.. think about it seriously. I know all the rubbish that Ionics have propagated about crash testing has got some people a bit worked up,.. but the general principle is right. You'll have 400KG of water right behind you. In a crash that might otherwise leave you uninjured, the tank has the potential to kill you.

Rachet straps can be strong enough,.. the problem is that the eyelet fixing points in the van aren't!

I would recommend getting a local welder/fabricator to weld up a frame,... this is a pic of one of the bast ones on the market:


Get him to bolt it through the chassis of the van with some seriously heavy duty bolts (16mm High tensile if possible) and use spreader plates where the bolt contacts the chassis. 8 or 10 bolts would be required depending on the position of the tank.

On some vans the fuel tank needs to be dropped before the chassis is properly accessible,.. but so long as you don't have to do this it shouldn't cost a whole lot. My one was built and installed for €120

Wayne Thomas

Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #132 on: July 13, 2008, 02:22:11 pm »
As angle iron has been used to secure the tank in the photo above, what puzzles me is: if your tank develops a serious leak and you need to replace the tank, how are you going to remove it and fit a replacement. Also, is that mild steel angle iron welded together or stainless steel and why didn't you have a frame made of box section instead?

Wayne Thomas

Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #133 on: July 13, 2008, 02:24:30 pm »
Forgot to mention. angle iron twists out of shape very easily when involved in accidents. I should know, I've welded enough bits on tanks in the army. Would have been more practical to use box sections. :)

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #134 on: July 13, 2008, 11:46:53 pm »
shall i buy this?

http ://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Merlin-RO-Window-Cleaning-System-For-Water-Fed-Poles_W0QQitemZ140186449083QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140186449083&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

poleman

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2008, 11:59:29 pm »
Go for it, I know the company, chap that owns it, runs the biggest WC in london, it does have a high waste! but I have one from them and happy with it

Andy  ;)

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #136 on: July 14, 2008, 12:04:30 am »
i was looking a merlin to combat the waste isshew :( on  a mtere you see. :(

http: //www.ro-man.com/shop/index.php/cPath/22_93

the 300gpd was the other option i was looikg at.

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #137 on: July 14, 2008, 01:52:39 am »
discount, if the offers still there ive looked it delivery up on the net. and parcel force do delivery for 30 odd £ i'll find out the esecat amount tomorow when i phone them. give me a call if your still willing to sell. numbers on the website bellow

mr D

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Re: wfp the start of a new chapter!
« Reply #138 on: July 23, 2008, 11:26:44 pm »
guys i'm getting there slowley but surely.

so far ive got 400 ltr tank for van,
100mtr 8 mm minibore hose on reel,
100psi sureflow pump,
varistream,

i know theres lots left to by but i'm stuck when it comes to feed hozes and conections etc. any advice? i'm gonna order from gardeners so if any one who know there shizzle could tell me what conections i need to order please do.