[mr D]

well ive checked checked and checked again the 350 tank fits from what i can work out.

[mr D]

i do hear you on that one but if the belly of my van rusts away because of not doing it it will cost me more. ive got the stuff for free from a mate he used normal floors paint with this grip stuff in it. looks a treat in his.

[mr D]

plus thers still lots of room above for real etc

[ftp]

Don't think that the 17'xtel  is a second rate pole. Even when you've got an slx (24) you will still use the 17' most of the time because it's lighter and smaller.

Yeh right.  :

Discount's on his third 17' Xtel already - shows how good they are! It pays to invest in the best you can afford and if you can stretch to an SLX you won't go wrong.

[Clive McDonald]

This place is full of snobs.

A few posts up Alex, the evil genius who created the SLX said that he and his team often use a 13'xtel pole.

We know that if you had to pick one pole the current choice is an SLX, but £400 against £60 is the main consideration here. Plus Dean is bound to be clumsy and have mishaps in the first few months.

Much of my being on my third xtel is my own fault.
1. over extending. (the extensions should have some overlap when extended horizontaly not be right at the end)
2 .the pole and the pole hose should be kept clean thus extending the life.

I have made some big breakthoughs in this (keeping the pole hose clean) and may post some photo's of how it should be done.However, as many of my invention posts are often met with derision i probably won't bother.

[sjm]

This place is full of snobs.

A few posts up Alex, the evil genius who created the SLX said that he and his team often use a 13'xtel pole.

We know that if you had to pick one pole the current choice is an SLX, but £400 against £60 is the main consideration here. Plus Dean is bound to be clumsy and have mishaps in the first few months.

Much of my being on my third xtel is my own fault.
1. over extending. (the extensions should have some overlap when extended horizontaly not be right at the end)
2 .the pole and the pole hose should be kept clean thus extending the life.

I have made some big breakthoughs in this (keeping the pole hose clean) and may post some photo's of how it should be done.However, as many of my invention posts are often met with derision i probably won't bother.

Go om mate , I am watching and learning 

[windowwashers]

This place is full of snobs.

A few posts up Alex, the evil genius who created the SLX said that he and his team often use a 13'xtel pole.

We know that if you had to pick one pole the current choice is an SLX, but £400 against £60 is the main consideration here. Plus Dean is bound to be clumsy and have mishaps in the first few months.

Much of my being on my third xtel is my own fault.
1. over extending. (the extensions should have some overlap when extended horizontaly not be right at the end)
2 .the pole and the pole hose should be kept clean thus extending the life.

I have made some big breakthoughs in this (keeping the pole hose clean) and may post some photo's of how it should be done.However, as many of my invention posts are often met with derision i probably won't bother.

Post them, you can only help people that want help, many on here will be wanting to see your pics, you do get quite a bit of stick though, then again so do I.
Your pics can/could help so post them 

[ftp]

Nothing to do with snobbery Discount it's facts. I spent the first year using fishing poles because i couldn't afford telescopic carbon and got the p taken out of me. The advice i was given was to invest in the best i could afford - a carbon Facelift, way above my means but good advice at the time. I now use carbon SL2 and SLX not because i'm a snob but because they are so good to use and probably the best tools for the job. As for your pole tidy I can't see any point in coiling any excess pole hose and attatching it to the pole - why carry the extra weight?
I would also doubt very much that a telescopic pole wears from the INSIDE as you are suggesting. Most wear seems to come from the friction of the clamps on soft substandard fibreglass shafts. All your poles will have worn out either at the fully extended or collapsed position........... i'd put money on that. 

[dd]

Mr D

You probably thought of this....but make sure you have enough space at the bottom of the tank for the water feed connection to your pump.

You should, just that some of the dimensions are tight.

[Clive McDonald]

 Lets not clutter this up with petty squables. you haven't understood what I said ftp about wear etc, my advanced techniques would probably help SLX users even more.

The only way a pole can wear is due to an ingress of dirt and grit. The main introductory agent of this is the internal pole hose which having been lain on the ground goes into the pole throught the sections.

I have solved this problem. You're not interested, fine.

The extra internal pole hose lain on the ground when you are working and the pole is closed is a trip hazard and leads to time consuming tangles.

I have solved this problem. You're not interested, fine.

[Sir Squeaky]

Lets not clutter this up with petty squables. you haven't understood what I said ftp about wear etc, my advanced techniques would probably help SLX users even more.

The only way a pole can wear is due to an ingress of dirt and grit. The main introductory agent of this is the internal pole hose which having been lain on the ground goes into the pole throught the sections.

I have solved this problem. You're not interested, fine.

The extra internal pole hose lain on the ground when you are working and the pole is closed is a trip hazard and leads to time consuming tangles.

I have solved this problem. You're not interested, fine.

Well I'd be interested for one.

You may be Toilet Clean's right hand man, but I'm sure you've got got some useful tips.

[ftp]

So what do you do about the hosereel hose? Hang it from a tree? Discount you are as daft as a brush (an auto brush)  :

[dd]

Hi Discount

I can't say that I have noticed dirt from the internal pole hose getting on the outside of pole sections thus causing wear.

I clean pole sections when they get dirty but find this is more from dirt/grit transfer from hands.

[mr D]

1stly dd thanks point taken and no i'd not thought of it yet. it's o.k though it can be accomadated for. the hight is the one factor i can move as a shelf can just be taken out.

discount i'm very intrested in any inventions any one has as every one should be!
if joe bloggs dont think its any good then joe bloggs say sorry mate but... if the inventer disagress then joe bloggs should leave the matter alone, at least they have been told.  

man i hate the bitching on here! stop it now please.

as for the £400 pole. without meaning to sound rude in the 1st post i stated i've £1000 to spend on the lot. now spending nearly 50% on just the pole when there are cheaper alternatives out there would dumb as fook. hardly good business praptice. i'm glad youpointed out if i had
3400 to spend on a pole where i should spend it but untill then its like telling a chap in a 2nd hand car showroom not to but the ford escort he can aford but opt for the audi TT and get in to debt doing so.

[Clive McDonald]

Ian Giles came up with the best hosereel hose solution. This is that the end of the hose and the tap are attached to a harness or webbing that slips over your head and under one arm. When you walk away from the vehicle the hose comes too, when you return it also comes.The tap is always at hand and the hose can easily be slipped on or off your person.The hosereel hose plays no part in shortening the life of the pole and is cleaned by running it through a cloth while the electic motor draws it back in.

In the case of the looped pole hose the extra weight is not given to the pole.

[Clive McDonald]

Hi Discount

I can't say that I have noticed dirt from the internal pole hose getting on the outside of pole sections thus causing wear.

I clean pole sections when they get dirty but find this is more from dirt/grit transfer from hands.

You extend the pole- the internal hose goes in- it touchs the insides of the pole sections and transfers dirt grit- you collapse the pole and the insides of the pole that have dirt on them are then against the outsides of the higher sections.

The dirt then concentrates itself near or inside clamps because of the sliding.

[dd]

Mr D

Re: water feed to pump. It is not the room above tank but the space at the bottom of the tank that could be an issue, i.e. sufficient width to accomodate fitting for the hose.

[ftp]

Mr D have, a look at the Brodex thread if you want some cheap poles.

[mr D]

Mr D

Re: water feed to pump. It is not the room above tank but the space at the bottom of the tank that could be an issue, i.e. sufficient width to accomodate fitting for the hose.

its o.k i know that i didnt exsplaine my self propper. the hight has loads more space there for i can raise the tank if need me to accomadate tap.

i'm not sure what tap your on about mind do you or any one have a pic?

[dd]

I just have a right angled barb fitting at the base of my tank which the hose is fitted to which then runs along side to pump. Sticks out a max of 50mm. Not very good at posting pictures.

I guess if you raise the tank off the floor and have fitting under tank you would be able to use pretty much all the water if need be. Never seen a system like that though.