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Anyone still using it? - it's gone very quiet lately.

[Dean Taberner]

What is it?

[macmac]

I inhale it if i've had a bad day, puts a smile back on my face!

Tony

[Dean Taberner]

What is it then?

Does it stop the water from freezing?

[RPCCS]

Thats all it does ,anti freeze for window cleaners basically.

[michael papworth]

Thats all it does ,anti freeze for window cleaners basically.

I think there's a bit more to it than just the anti-freeze properties.

It reduces the surface tension of water and therefore makes the water less likely to bead on hydrophobic glass. It also helps dissolve oils.

Whether these are useful properties in the dilutions used by us wfpers is another matter.

Typical dilutions seem to be 1:1000 or greater.

[windowwashers]

Thats all it does ,anti freeze for window cleaners basically.

I think there's a bit more to it than just the anti-freeze properties.

It reduces the surface tension of water and therefore makes the water less likely to bead on hydrophobic glass. It also helps dissolve oils.

Whether these are useful properties in the dilutions used by us wfpers is another matter.

Typical dilutions seem to be 1:1000 or greater.

Does this mean you do not know Wally ?

[michael papworth]

I know about the properties of concentrated or slightly diluted IPA.

I'm not sure that they are very effective at the dilutions typically used by wfpers.

I think the reduction in surface tension is probably the most useful feature for window washing - and that might well be effective at quite high dilutions.

I certainly know someone who does know - he's my brother in law and he's a plate maker. He uses IPA by the bucket load for cleaning. I check with him - if I ever find him off-shift and awake.

[windowwashers]

dude get out of the teacher thinking give a straight answer, you dont know simple, if you dont know say I dont know thats not rocket science. Find out if you know someone that can give you the answer, you cant be clever at everything m8ty  and there are many things in window cleaning that take a lot time to learn.

[[GQC] Tim]

dude get out of the teacher thinking give a straight answer, you dont know simple, if you dont know say I dont know thats not rocket science. Find out if you know someone that can give you the answer, you cant be clever at everything m8ty  and there are many things in window cleaning that take a lot time to learn.

I'd rather have him talk that way, he's one of the very few persons on here that actually makes my brain tick, the rest of the posts are usually just moaning, off topic, or been there done that material.

[Neil271052]

dude get out of the teacher thinking give a straight answer, you dont know simple, if you dont know say I dont know thats not rocket science. Find out if you know someone that can give you the answer, you cant be clever at everything m8ty  and there are many things in window cleaning that take a lot time to learn.

I'd rather have him talk that way, he's one of the very few persons on here that actually makes my brain tick, the rest of the posts are usually just moaning, off topic, or been there done that material.

Ditto.

 Wallys posts are always interesting and  at least he knows how to spell and use grammar correctly.

Although his posts are often complex they are a pleasure to read with no deciphering needed. 

Keep going Wally.

[ftp]

Blimey Ian, that's a bit rich isn't it?

[windowwashers]

Blimey Ian, that's a bit rich isn't it?

Yes, sry wally 
No deciphering needed on this post

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

No WW is just jealous of Wally's name.  Joke.

Found this link on ebay

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interesting list of uses.  I think it would work out rather expensive in the long run though works out £20 for 5 liters and if Wally is right 1/1000 dilution then you are looking at £4 for every 1000L IBC tank, ouch.

Simon.

[Jeff Brimble]

Ahh but ah wot about us minimalists  1000L would last me 100 working days or more,so I dont use much Iso either.

[windowwashers]

No WW is just jealous of Wally's name.  Joke. lol

Found this link on ebay

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120219814464&ih=002&category=11702&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:3

interesting list of uses.  I think it would work out rather expensive in the long run though works out £20 for 5 liters and if Wally is right 1/1000 dilution then you are looking at £4 for every 1000L IBC tank, ouch.

Simon.

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120219814464&ih=002&category=11702&rd=1&ssPageName=mem_guide:3

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Ahh but ah wot about us minimalists  1000L would last me 100 working days or more,so I dont use much Iso either.

10L a day = bucket mop and blade.  Yes?

Simon.

[michael papworth]

works out (at) £20 for 5 liters and if Wally is right 1/1000 dilution then you are looking at £4 for every 1000L IBC tank, ouch.

Simon.

I might not be right about the dilution. I was working from memory - notoriously unreliable at my advanced age.

Need others to come in here and say what dilutions they use.

SherwoodCleaning, have you tried IPA? Does it make the blade slide on the glass?

I've found that a blade slides fine in hydrophilic glass using pure water but sticks like glue to hydrophobic.

That is one thing that might get me using the stuff. I sometimes like to blade off after a quick wash.

(I've found that on a first clean with really dirty windows, a quick wash with pure water, a wipe with a microfibre and then a swirl with a squeegee followed by a wash and rinse with pure saves LOADS of time scrubbing. The only problem is that the blade sticks on the glass sometimes and makes me look like a right Wally!)

[Sir Squeaky]

It reduces the surface tension of water and therefore makes the water less likely to bead on hydrophobic glass. I

You can keep it then.

I love windows that bead off like water off a ducks back.
Perfect every time, and twice as quick as a big sheet that might not be clean.