[sjm]

What would you want from a window cleaning federation ?

[TennetClean]

I'd want a federation that didnt cost anything, and didnt interfere with my business.  It should not have links with anybody, or actually be run by any persons at all.

Lol joking aside mate, we have been down this road so many times, and every time it hits a dead end.

Problem 1 (most major problem) is that window cleaners themselves just dont care, ad are certainly not willing to pay.

Problem 2 is who would run it?  you need dedicated, experienced, able people.  But those types are not the slightest bit interested in running a fed, they are too busy doing very well thank you with their own businesses.  So you only end up with idiot power hungry numpties who think that being on the board of an association makes them feel important.  The result of that is that it fails after a few months when the said numpties realise they are actually numpties and dont want to do it anymore.

Problem 3 MONEY.  Who would pay to set it up?  The answer is...nobody.

The whole idea is a non-starter (unless you're a power hungry numpty, in which case, go for it)

[sjm]

I'd want a federation that didnt cost anything, and didnt interfere with my business.  It should not have links with anybody, or actually be run by any persons at all.

Lol joking aside mate, we have been down this road so many times, and every time it hits a dead end.

Problem 1 (most major problem) is that window cleaners themselves just dont care, ad are certainly not willing to pay.

Problem 2 is who would run it?  you need dedicated, experienced, able people.  But those types are not the slightest bit interested in running a fed, they are too busy doing very well thank you with their own businesses.  So you only end up with idiot power hungry numpties who think that being on the board of an association makes them feel important.  The result of that is that it fails after a few months when the said numpties realise they are actually numpties and dont want to do it anymore.

Problem 3 MONEY.  Who would pay to set it up?  The answer is...nobody.

The whole idea is a non-starter (unless you're a power hungry numpty, in which case, go for it)

What about me n you ? mono et mono ?

[sjm]

Ring me tomm

[TennetClean]

Lol, its an idea.

But I am a perfect example of the problem.  I am super interested in window cleaning.  I'm enthusiastic about it and (what I consider) very professional.  I think its a great business and I love it.

And I also couldn't care less about any federations, because I just cant see any benefit to them at all.

If thats me, who is bothered about window cleaning, how will it be for the squillions of other window cleaners for whom window cleaning is more of a casual thing.  They will care even less than I do.

Mate, it is just a no-hoper because people dont care (including me!).  Its sad but true!

[Nathanael Jones]

Well for a start all federation staff should look like lingerie models and dress accordingly, if you see what I mean.

PMSL

Couldn't agree more!!

 

[AuRavelling79]

Well for a start all federation staff should look like lingerie models and dress accordingly, if you see what I mean.

...

 

That's Tosh then!

Oh, I never thought I'd ever say it but I completely agree with Tennet on this!

[jaykie]

Id want a fed that when you ask them at the end of june 08 thet dont send out a information pack thats 18 months old as dated Feb 07.

Chris

[Nathanael Jones]

If Carlsberg made a window cleaning association,... It'd be giving away a 24' Hxtel pole to one of its members tomorrow,....

 

[Nathanael Jones]

CONGRATULATIONS to Peter Daley,... aka K7poo/Pootwo

Winner of the first Guild member prize draw for a 24' HXtel pole, kindly sponsored by Arthur @ www.surecleansystems.com

 

[matt]

Problem 3 MONEY.  Who would pay to set it up?  The answer is...nobody.

not strictly true, im sure ive heard of companies who set up these things just to have a voice to lobby MP's etc etc

[sjm]

Problem 3 MONEY.  Who would pay to set it up?  The answer is...nobody.

not strictly true, im sure ive heard of companies who set up these things just to have a voice to lobby MP's etc etc

I vote for you Matt , whatever you call the fed , Im in !, Where do I sign ? 

[mr D]

If carlsburg made a wc federation they would advertise them selfs on media formats like t.v national radio and newspapers/mags so joe public would know who they were and what they stand for so they would look for w/c assoated with these fed's. there for the w/c joining would get somthing back for there subscription fee other than a junk email once a month advertising the next biggest thing thats gonna reverlutionise the w/cing world. :

IMO w/c feds dont benifit anyone other than the puppet masters bringing in the sub fee's and advertising revenue.

but maybe i'm wrong?

[Nathanael Jones]

At least the pole looks good!   

Congrats Peter!

[ClearviewServices]

He looks scary.. 

[*Chris Browne]

Very... :

[jaykie]

Excuse me mate, would you just hold this pole for me,  SNAP, cheers mate see you later,