[mark shannon]

Len on really delicate rugs use a woolsafe splitter brush in with soft brush by hand then extract

Fibresafe seems ok on most though.

Mark

[Len Gribble]

Mark

Didn’t know there was one out there? Who supplies the woolsafe splitter?

Len

[cleaningmaster]

Hi All,
Read this thread with real interest
I agree that you have to use what you have to use to get the result the custy deserves.
i have been in this business for 21 yrs(the first 18 with a franchise...SM)
Since being on my own i have tried prochem, which gave good results, but now i use chemspec and getting the best results ever.
Wool carpets....One clean traffic clean, pre-spray followed by a rinse with One clean. i may then "mist" over with acid rinse if they are very light.
Polyprops/ manmade/etc....321 pre-spray followed by a rinse with Formula 90.



regards

Daryl

[mark shannon]

Len sorry just what IMO is woolsafe not certified woolsafe.

[Mike Osbourne]

Fineline is Woolsafe approved

[Simon Gerrard]

I am so glad to see that the Microsplitter bubble has finally burst and many of those that came under the spell of the companies selling them have realised that there are far more effective chemicals out there that produce vastly better results in a fraction of the time.

Simon

[Joe H]

Just read most of the threads again Simon and I would have though there was a 50/50 ish split MS/detergents.
Obviously many like MS, many dont.

[stevegunn]

Just read most of the threads again Simon and I would have though there was a 50/50 ish split MS/detergents.
Obviously many like MS, many dont.

What about all the people who have not replied?

[carlton care]

Take a few saucers or small plastic containers and pour in small amounts of various m/s products, leave overnight to evaporate and test the residue.

The results might surprise you particularly if you are an eco fan.

[Joe H]

Just read most of the threads again Simon and I would have though there was a 50/50 ish split MS/detergents.
Obviously many like MS, many dont.

What about all the people who have not replied?

Can only judge on the info one has. No good guessing what others may think.

[Andrew Briscoe]

Used microsplitters since mid 90's after getting a One Step video,
ordered some from franklins i think it was, and was impressed.

Have used most breeds, and found one i am happy with

Excellent on fabric, great on carpets.

Costs 1p/m2

Less to carry in van

Customers happy with results, less chance of resoiling.

Suits me-customer happy,why go back to detergents !!

Andrew.

[spindle]

just got back from hols in oz........

imho

i think that m/s ,allerstop ,etc... have all been overated.....

i believe that the suppliers/companys every 5 years come up with a "new" and "better" chems + products + tools + machines
some people rush out to get their hands on them.......tells everyone how great they are ...what a better job they do....how you can save time blah blah blah...

i am happy that i dont get sucked in too.
how much faster/cleaner/eco-friendlier can you get.......

how many of you guys have equipment/tools etc.. that you no longer  use or need? how many have sheds/garages full of things that you dont really want?
how much money do you have sitting there....

what happened to the new wands that everyone rushed out to get a few months ago?
what was wrong with the wands you had?

i am not saying that i dont buy new equipment or chems....but i will wait till they are beyond repair or i have finished using a product.....this means for me that i have minimum expenses but maximum profits.....and my money stays in my bank for longer.

i happy with the results i get and more importantly so are my customers...

[colin thomas]

i have been back and forth with different chemicals and i did lose interest in a certain cornwall micro-splitter when the claims for it frankly got ridiculous, spray on the dirt dissapears and you don't even have to extract, yawn. but i have lately gone back to splitters with  pure clean, i really find that it works, i did a real minger today, i thought that i should use something really strong but i had pc mixed up from yesterday and it did  the biz. the real bonus for me is that i don't have to pay for an acidic rinse, pc rinses with just water. ok i wouldn't use it on say a pub or restaurant but for 99% of other work, it is great

[alan lewis]

Colin

Do you use PC through a hydroforce and if so...how many scoops per litre? assuming 8 to 1 ratio, as the instructions say 8 scoops per litre!! seems a lot.

Alan

[stevegunn]

Just read most of the threads again Simon and I would have though there was a 50/50 ish split MS/detergents.
Obviously many like MS, many dont.

There's your answer Joe

www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=57542.0

[Len Gribble]

Chris

Some were on a roll or primed it, thank god it was not a new religion but some are still believer

Point taken garages but that was the cleaning side all paid for by the customer by the way the hand tool I sold you never been used thanks for the profit £5 put that to the bees knees, which I will never sell

Colin

Why not a pub

Alan

Having second thoughts on Hydroforce sprayer only reverted back in the last month or so over applying a tm thing

Steve

Stop picking on Sandy Shaw 

Len

[Neil Williams]

This is very interesting topic and strangely enough I haven't seen any of the I sprayed M/S on the carpet went away for 10 minutes and when I came back the marks were gone brigade, along with the only use cold water and M/S lot
I fell for the Magic Cornish Water and how the just carry one bottle of magic solution 8 with a couple of whalley pads and that's all you'll ever need trick.
Weren't we all taught that no one thing can deal with everything?
So I'm still carrying around about 25 various products to deal with just about every situation.
Pureclean is a step in the right direction and much better than Cornish Magic Water and I like it but again it doesn't do everything.

[spindle]

len

how i wish i had sold you the vacuum motor now!!!

wasnt poking at you len ...about garages....just general observation......

point was trying to make that all singing all dancing tools etc...are not all they cracked up to be!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Colin I thought the whole idea of acid rinse was to stabilize the ph to neutral? PC is  ph9 so ideally you need to neutralize with Acid rinse.

Okay I'm being picky but you can see my point.

Shaun

[john rees]

I only use an acid rinse if there is a specific problem with the carpet I'm dealing with, as when you rinse with pure water you will remove whatever pre spray that was applied anyway. When I use my shower at home I've never noticed an acid rinse button on it? so I just make do with water

                         All the best
                                          John