[jouk45]

i was thinking today about the wear and tear on our arm bones and  joints, if we where to count every moving action we made, ad that up in a year, then look at it in 10 years time, now that is a lot of wear and tear on the bone joint, i can see a lot of shoulder joint operations in the near future, not trying to put anyone of, but iv had a few problems, and i have been going at it 7 years  

[vivaro 013]

im 45 now being going 3 years wfp knee and shoulders, elbows all showing signs of wear and tear , going on monday for mri scan on knees

[jouk45]

i have had to get treatment on my right shoulder, it lasts about a year or so then comes back, and it is realy painful, believe it or not my doctor prescribed ibuprpen   he said any sign of pain stop work for a few days, as those tablets are inflamitorys, they do work,

[jouk45]

i even thought that carbon poles would reduce this as the are much lighter, but thinking about it, you still have to make the same movements  while using the pole,

[sjm]

What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ?

[windowwashers]

What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ?

30 if hes any good 

[Art]

At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it 

[dai]

My elbow has been giving me grief again, My daughter is a physio and gave me a support for it, that certainly helps. This support is not elasticated, it's a kind of pad that looks like a mini weight lifting belt that fastens with Velcro, you place the widest part over the painful area.
I also have pain just below the shoulder blades, this goes when I have a day off, or over the weekend.

She recommended the same tablets as Jouks doctor.

[Joe Lauzon]

At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it 

I've got floating cartilage or something in my elbow from weight training.  Best way to knacker your joints I reckon.  Seen a chaps knee shoot accross the room when deadlifting, well 3 inches anyway. 

[jouk45]

cant remember the name of this treatment i got, it was a little mic looking thing with ultra sound i think, sound vibrates through to the muscles and gives them a good shaking,    its the only way they heal fast,

[mci services]

great thread this not after 15 years in the infantry my knees are shot to bits any way and now i find out my elbows will go as well on a serious note the army prescribe nothing but ibrubrofen doesnt stop the damage just helps the symptoms

[NWH]

How do you know your elbows will go aswell.

[sjm]

What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ?

30 if hes any good 

Or she 

[Jeff Brimble]

At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it 

But you have to take it long term, yes it does work after 6 weeks.

[mci services]

How do you know your elbows will go aswell.

well elbow or shoulders ;)not really worried to be honest

[kris martin]

just think of all the movements you do trad, your knees especially and your wrists.. i'd say your doing more movement trad then wfp

[jeff1]

For any pains, buy your self a TENS unit, you can wear this during the day.
arthritis
joint pain
fibromyalgia

[mci services]

just think of all the movements you do trad, your knees especially and your wrists.. i'd say your doing more movement trad then wfp

dont think its movement that does the damage its weight and movement and climbing a ladder and twirling a squeegie isnt heavey. but heaving a pole up and down all day is what can cause damage

[jouk45]

For any muscle pains, buy your self a TENS unit, you can wear this during the day.

jeff that would help the pain, but it wont cure it, my doctor said if i dont rest for 2 weeks with the medication, i would do a lot worse damage, that was a good few months back that happened to me, and it did get better,

[jeff1]

ibuprpen  only helps the pain and doesn't cure the problem 

I don't like taking tablets, but a TENS unit can be kept in the gove box and put into action if you get a pain at work and you may be miles away from a shop so no tablets until you get to the nearest shop.

Have a read about a TENS Unit.

h ttp://arthritis.about.com/od/assistivedevicesgadgets/g/tensunit.htm  (close the http bit)