[gordonswindows]

yeah right Kris (who cant even spell his own name yet)

im losing allllllllll the way to the bank

wow that cap does fit

[Cleaner Windows]

i have  i do and i will continue to leaflet

you so called w/c who bought a round dont know what business is about and should go and move to some communist creche

Business is about being the one who goes home with the money

why should i let other w/c go home with my money, there is no such things as a "patch".

if you all want to control your patch and price fix between friends i am happy to undercut your prices and go home with the loot.

£17 for a house because you were the only one to visit doesnt make your price right or fair

if i wanted your round i will go as low as i need to to get it.

You dont see Asda sharing prices and customers with Tesco, you dont see football club  team mates giving each other a chance while playing for opposing countries

come on be a grown up life is a competition and the winner takes all.

 £17? £17? you are just like the other lazy self-centred " everybody owes me a living" whiners.

You want to keep your customers either offer a service that nobody else does or get your prices back into the real world

hey hey we clean windows, we dont cure cancer or drought.So what if the windows are high big or just a lot of them everybody and i mean everybody is fair game

The lowest i have gone to win a house you would not believe

ahem....excuse me mate, my prices are the same or below the norm for around here and my services include cleaning the frames and sills with no extra charge, my customers are very happy and normally tell new wc'ers to bugger off when it comes to them toting for business, they know I'm professional and reliable and do a bloody good job, £17 is a fair price for that house with those sort of windows so dont call me a whiner, no one else round here would offer the same price and include frames and sills nor would most around the south, these people will realise this when the new wc'er gets fed up with it!
I dont care what part of the country your from tbh, if your prices are £5 ish then thats because of your area, don't get jealous and start having a go at everyone else because the prices round here are better. Ive worked with bad prices too same as everone else, so what?
All I was saying is that its a bit of an underhand tactic postimg prices through peoples doors when they have'nt even asked for a quote yet! I mean, where does it stop? you might get some absolute idiot offering to do peoples houses for £2 each regardless of size and where would that sort of strategie get us lot eh? f-ing no where thats where!

[kris martin]

yeah right Kris (who cant even spell his own name yet)

im losing allllllllll the way to the bank

wow that cap does fit

first and foremost ya loooooooooser that is how you spell my name, also i dont know you but i would bet you a lot of money that i have a lot more work than you and a more established business,  also the other wc'ers in my area i get on with very well they have give me customers and i give them customers, one company actually told me too my face they were going to undercut my prices and take all the work, they dont clean windows any more because i have it all... in my 11 year experience you get a lot further being nice than back stabbing because a lot of my work has come from other wc'ers for free.... so i think i am the one laughing to the bank

[gordonswindows]

Now Now Chris oops sorry Kras

calm down it seems i have hit a nerve

wonder how hard your "friendly" w/c pals laugh when they dump the bad payers/moaning customers on you

c'mon who would give away a "good" customer

"mine is bigger than yours" are you trying just a bit hard to prove yourself

and i dont know you but anyone with a chip the size you are carrying in my experience is either short or bald

no offence to short people or bald people as some of my bets friends etc etc lol

[kris martin]

bets friends whats that, i just dont like back stabbers... sometimes it can be hard enough for wc'ers to not have to put up with people like you going around trying to steal their livelyhood, im not fat im quite slim, im far from bald and im also far from old if you want to know my attributes im 6ft exact 13 and half stone with not an ounce of fat on me oh and im 31..... i have far too much work that earns me a good living and im sure most winder cleaneras on here dont need people like you... so the chip on my shoulder is only directed at you.

[kris martin]

there is more than enough work for everybody and if you want to lowwer your prices that much to steal sombodys work then your a MUG

[kris martin]

all the way to the bang....    Yeah with your piggy bank..

[kris martin]

all the way to the bang....    Yeah with your piggy bank..

sorry  BANK

[gordonswindows]

its okay Kris its hard to concentrate when your riled

go and count your money under the mattress so the taxman cant get it nor the big bad vat

see if your profits are good enough you don't need to hide from the officials all you do is pay your taxes and you can spend your money on anything you like..

but you will already know that with your bigger than mine empire

cheers

[tonyoliver]

thats even if the other cleaner EVEN exsisted

[kris martin]

what are you going there for you loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooser, you dont no me or my accounts.    KISS IT

[kris martin]

last word undercut me and you'll get your butt kicked

ohhhhh im scared...

i said that before you did..

[gordonswindows]

quite right enoughs enough

lets behave like grown ups i am sorry for suggesting you are fat or bald

however at 6' tall and 13 and a half stone the NHS calculator suggests you might be obese or just too short for your height

and thank you for admitting you do have a chip on your shoulder  quote" so the chip on my shoulder is only directed at you".

 No really I am sorry i must stop this

it is not right to take the mickey out of the afflicted because it is just tooooooooo easy

NO NO thats it I REALLY AM SORRY i apologise

best wishes and please accept my apologies

[kris martin]

gordon i apologise my empire (by looking at your website) is not as big as yours but i dont think you should undercut a FELLOW window cleaner out of his livelyhood..

[jaykie]

Id have to say i think undercutting is wrong, when i knock on a door the 1st thing i say is "sorry to bother you

but i was just wondering if you had a window cleaner" then move on from there, ive picked up so much work

from custys that there window cleaner was so cheap but doing a really bad job, reason, because the w/c just

wanted as much work as poss and now realises he is doing too cheap, i got these custys at double what he

was charging and that was still cheap, theres enough window to clean out there, i leaflet drop and i canvass

but i would never give a price to someone who has a window cleaner, if they have a problem i get them to

voice there complaints to there w/c and they will probs contact me at a later date. I know many w/c in my area

and i too have had jobs passed onto me and have also passed work on, i had a w/c give me 5 x 4 storey town

houses £20 each 4weekly as he is trad and the custys needed to be in when he called but ive also passed

work onto him when ive canvassed and the custy wants a trad cleaner i then pass these details on to him and

he then visits them. There is no such thing as a patch, canvass to find that few that dont have cleaners but  

respect others too as what goes around comes around.

Chris

[AuRavelling79]

did you not see the irony? (Sheffield, steel industry)

You don't know when to stop.

You Kirky's wingman, Discount? 

[kris martin]

Id have to say i think undercutting is wrong, when i knock on a door the 1st thing i say is "sorry to bother you

but i was just wondering if you had a window cleaner" then move on from there, ive picked up so much work

from custys that there window cleaner was so cheap but doing a really bad job, reason, because the w/c just

wanted as much work as poss and now realises he is doing too cheap, i got these custys at double what he

was charging and that was still cheap, theres enough window to clean out there, i leaflet drop and i canvass

but i would never give a price to someone who has a window cleaner, if they have a problem i get them to

voice there complaints to there w/c and they will probs contact me at a later date. I know many w/c in my area

and i too have had jobs passed onto me and have also passed work on, i had a w/c give me 5 x 4 storey town

houses £20 each 4weekly as he is trad and the custys needed to be in when he called but ive also passed

work onto him when ive canvassed and the custy wants a trad cleaner i then pass these details on to him and

he then visits them. There is no such thing as a patch, canvass to find that few that dont have cleaners but  

respect others too as what goes around comes around.

Chris

my sentiments..   i got £450 a month off a fellow wc because he couldnt handle it, he come to us because were fair and genuin and ive got to say it but when work does come up it normally comes to us, either free or for a good price..   i have never flyered but if i did at the top would be    IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A WINDOW CLEANER IGNORE THIS ADVERTISEMENT

[jaykie]

I think if someone already has a cleaner they would put the flyer straight in the bin and youd only get calls from people without a w/c, but id never put a price on the flyer as the main reasons for that are because you know roughly what other cleaners charging to do that house so the the chances are your going to get that custy as your a few quid cheaper.

Chris

[Cleaner Windows]

bets friends whats that, i just dont like back stabbers... sometimes it can be hard enough for wc'ers to not have to put up with people like you going around trying to steal their livelyhood, im not fat im quite slim, im far from bald and im also far from old if you want to know my attributes im 6ft exact 13 and half stone with not an ounce of fat on me oh and im 31..... i have far too much work that earns me a good living and im sure most winder cleaneras on here dont need people like you... so the chip on my shoulder is only directed at you.

agreed!

[Cleaner Windows]

lol I lost another custy today because their mortgage repayments have hit the roof and they need to cutback on certain things! she took a flyer and said would I mind if she uses me again when her finances are a bit more sorted?
again, I picked up another new house when I came home, it was the result of a quote I gave someone a couple of days ago