[jouk45]

sorry alistair, i cant put a price on it yet, as a supplier may want to sell it complete with pole, another may sell as a kit, but the easier is fited with the pole, less problems, if i was the supplier i would sell it with the pole ready to use,less complications

[Art]

Joe, are you going to have these manufactured and sell them to suppliers?

[jouk45]

well its what i am hoping for art, its a very cheap thing to make even if it makes wfp 40% easier, its a step forward, its not all about pole lightness, its about using with ease to, combine both and you have the god of all poles, 

[Art]

well its what i am hoping for art, its a very cheap thing to make even if it makes wfp 40% easier, its a step forward, its not all about pole lightness, its about using with ease to, combine both and you have the god of all poles, 

Well Joe, imo you'll need to bite the bullet and get them out there for trials.
Get the idea protected before someone nicks it and uses it.

Speculate to accumulate.

[Alistair@AWC]

Jo

Obviously if it does what its supposed to the market fitted into new poles will be huge but I think the retro fit market will be the one that makes this product take off.

If the inner tube is market ready instead of waiting on a supplier to come along I think you should let a few of us get our hands on one to help create a buzz

[jouk45]

if i get no offers from any companys soon, i will produce 100 or so, then  go from there, but thats a last resort, i have to make a living like eveyone else, so all i can do is advertise now and again to suppliers to remind them, like this topic 

[mark dew]

jo have you got a patent or some protection in mind?

I must admit i was sitting here wondering what the advantage of the pole was if it needed a hose anyway. But it has clicked that it is one of those little things that makes life easier and would be worth getting.

I'm not recommending myself but i still think you should dish a few prototypes out to like minded people like the 2 jeffs etc. Oh yeah and alistair , to get some feedback that will filter through the forums. 
How many people have bought things like a pole tidy from purefreedom? There is a market out there.

[windowwashers]

use this on your search browser , but put the h thats sepetaed closer on the link, its just this forum dont allow http
h ttp://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/?action=view&current=7c4a370c.flv

Have to say I am very impressed with that Joe here is the link for it:

s184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/?action=view&current=7c4a370c.flv


Ian

[trevor perry]

i have just bought a pro 10 internal pole and the hose on this is very thin and curls around the outside of the pole, if this was put on the internal of the pole it could be extended without any extra length of hose needing to come out of bottom of pole.

[jewelcleaning]

I like the idea of this pole hose, but I wonder how long it would last.

The folds on a concertina (I'm guessing that's how it works, ) will only fold and unfold a finite amount of times before splitting.  (Fatigue)

If this is the case, probably good for 'domestic' or 'diy' grade meant for occasional use.

How long have you been using this and how intensively?

J

[trevor perry]

I like the idea of this pole hose, but I wonder how long it would last.

The folds on a concertina (I'm guessing that's how it works, ) will only fold and unfold a finite amount of times before splitting.  (Fatigue)

If this is the case, probably good for 'domestic' or 'diy' grade meant for occasional use.

How long have you been using this and how intensively?

J

i have only just bought the pro 10 pole with "concertina fold" hose on the outside so dont know how long it will last but it does look quite strong , if it does last i will try fitting some inside a pople and see how it works.

[twt]

Joe i remember when you first started telling us about this pole a few years ago then nothing up until now. I think you may be waiting for someone to come along and do everything for you and give you money, i don't think this is going to happen. Also as regards to getting a patent i believe it costs around £20,000 but  the rewards could be higher, you will know more about that side of things. Why don't you produce the kits for converting poles and ready converted poles and start selling them yourself. The more you do yourself and the less outside help you get the more you will get out of it.

[NWH]

What is the point of a hoseless pole,a pole with normal hose or mini-microbore at the base of it would be heavier and more awkard to use.What`s wrong with a length of 5mm pole hose running through the pole it weighs nothing,if they brought 1 out i wouldn`t even look at it.

[jewelcleaning]

What is the point of a hoseless pole,a pole with normal hose or mini-microbore at the base of it would be heavier and more awkard to use.What`s wrong with a length of 5mm pole hose running through the pole it weighs nothing,if they brought 1 out i wouldn`t even look at it.

Good point about the weight of the hose attached to the pole.

I haven't had a problem with the hose running through the pole, only had a problem with the tap positioning.  At the bottom of pole is ideal, but with normal hose, you have to have a massive loop to allow for extension, which I don't like.

[jouk45]

nwh, i bet you would buy one,   ok to keep a long story short, i first invented this intensionaly for wfp cleaning, but on the way, i discovered this is bigger than wfp, domestic sales would rocket, theres a missing part of the pole invention, whick makes the pole portable similar to a backpack, no batterys no hand pumping, this makes the invention bigger than wfp sales, so if i brought this out, every company will produce them, and i will lose out, only one person has seen the video of the full prototype was jeff brown, as i trust him 100% and even jeff saw the potential of this invention straight away,

[jouk45]

the manufacturer can postion the trigger any where they like on the pole 

[NWH]

nwh, i bet you would buy one,   ok to keep a long story short, i first invented this intensionaly for wfp cleaning, but on the way, i discovered this is bigger than wfp, domestic sales would rocket, theres a missing part of the pole invention, whick makes the pole portable similar to a backpack, no batterys no hand pumping, this makes the invention bigger than wfp sales, so if i brought this out, every company will produce them, and i will lose out, only one person has seen the video of the full prototype was jeff brown, as i trust him 100% and even jeff saw the potential of this invention straight away,

I`ve seen the breif video of the pole about a year ago i think it was,if your talking about having enough water just to do a couple of windows i still wouldn`t buy 1.Fair play to you for inventing it but i still don`t think i would buy it,it`s like the backpack it only interests a few WC`s compared to the market as a whole.Some might buy it to say they have it but as for daily use i`m not convinced.

[jouk45]

i use it even to this day, 6 months ago i started the field testing, still no problems yet, its far supperior to any  telescopic pole i have ever used, of course it may not suit everyones cup of tea, but this i know for sure, this pole will take up a lot of the telescopic pole market, as it has at least 8 or more domestic funtions, believe it or not the americans seem to be more interested in the pole than the uk, unger is one of them, 

[NWH]

Not being funny Jouk but look at some of ungers WFP stuff.

[jouk45]

i know, thats why they are interested in my idea as it is telescipic, and not screw on,