[sjm]

what goverment have you seen that has been  honest, none of of them, they are all at it, the more honest you are the poorer you are, fact,

Sorry to dissagree , but that is not true !   If you are honest people will respect you more , give you more work , and ultimatly you can sleep soundly at night .

[kris martin]

mark drew your funny, oh and by the way my mums a bar maid on the books and when she gets a tip she is straight on the phone to the tax man telling him exactly how much she got (NOT).

this is a stupid topic its no ones business but the person who it concerns and some people on here wont other people to get into trouble when it wouldnt make the slightest bit of difference to them (doo gooders).

everybody bends the rules a little you would be daft not too, i bought a ladder a year ago and diddnt put it through my books there for diddnt get a reduction in my tax, there are a million things i could be claiming for instance my woman doing my books but do i (NO)

[jouk45]

what goverment have you seen that has been  honest, none of of them, they are all at it, the more honest you are the poorer you are, fact,

Sorry to dissagree , but that is not true !   If you are honest people will respect you more , give you more work , and ultimatly you can sleep soundly at night .

rich folk sleep at night, the ones who know how to get roud it, not to fiddle the tax, but legaly know how to, thats the trick,

[Neil Williams]

mark drew your funny,

You and a few others clearly can't take a hint when it's put right in front of your face. Well done for possibly putting your mother and that pub up for investigation.
Keep up the good work

[kris martin]

not worried mate... have nothing too be worried about what so ever... 

anyway change of subject my tank is full and i diddnt think it was going too fill because it is filling considerably slower than usual

[WCE]

i dont fill in my forms i have somebody do it for me and dont make me out to be some sort of cowboy because i declare my work.... ALL OF IT.  and remind me when somebody gives me a box of choclate or a bottle of wine at christmas to send the tax man a glass or a couple of chocs

Do you think this had something to do with why he is upset? He has now deleted his account. Or do you think he was the taxman LOL!

[kris martin]

i think he may of realised this forum can be crap

[sjm]

To be honest is the best policy !  Never did science at school  But if you are going to run a business , you have to follow a formula .  If you do your homework and follow through  with your business plan , then you are starting as you mean to go on . If you deviate from the plan , and want to cut costs and lie about your earnings then that is up to you !

[davids3511]

what goverment have you seen that has been  honest, none of of them, they are all at it, the more honest you are the poorer you are, fact,

Sorry to dissagree , but that is not true !   If you are honest people will respect you more , give you more work , and ultimatly you can sleep soundly at night .

That's not always the case. How would your customer know whether you delare 50% 60% or 100% of your income?

[kris martin]

To be honest is the best policy !  Never did science at school  But if you are going to run a business , you have to follow a formula .  If you do your homework and follow through  with your business plan , then you are starting as you mean to go on . If you deviate from the plan , and want to cut costs and lie about your earnings then that is up to you !

WELL SAID 

but this topic is crap lets talk about somthing else coronation street or something.

[sjm]

what goverment have you seen that has been  honest, none of of them, they are all at it, the more honest you are the poorer you are, fact,

Sorry to dissagree , but that is not true !   If you are honest people will respect you more , give you more work , and ultimatly you can sleep soundly at night .

That's not always the case. How would your customer know whether you delare 50% 60% or 100% of your income?

Sorry dont understand your point !

[davids3511]

mark drew your funny,

You and a few others clearly can't take a hint when it's put right in front of your face. Well done for possibly putting your mother and that pub up for investigation.
Keep up the good work

Give it a rest with the paronia. I have two other businesses which turn over alot more than my window cleaning. Two acountants and one ex tax inspector all agree the IR is in absolute turmoil right now. I doubt they have time for browsing clean it up, never mind going to the trouble of getting a court order to get the members IP address from Mike, then another to get the ip address resolved to an actual address from the relevant ISP before any investigation could even start. I am not sure the tax his mam is avoiding paying on her tips would justify that expenditure.

[davids3511]

what goverment have you seen that has been  honest, none of of them, they are all at it, the more honest you are the poorer you are, fact,

Sorry to dissagree , but that is not true !   If you are honest people will respect you more , give you more work , and ultimatly you can sleep soundly at night .

That's not always the case. How would your customer know whether you delare 50% 60% or 100% of your income?

Sorry dont understand your point !

You are trying to associate honesty with your taxes with getting more work. I am saying that is rubbish because your customer will not have a clue (unless you are blatant) what you are declaring compared to anyother guy so it won't come into the equasion.

[kris martin]

im off to bed people (read enough) for tonight anyway ...

[davids3511]

My brother in law told me a story the other day. His window claner works 7 days and usually cleans him on a Sunday. The last time he was boasting about how with his benifits and window ceaning he was pulling in 800 a week. He obviously didn't realise my bil's wife worked for the IR and my partner, his sister works for the Jobcentres!

It is the mouthy boasful ones that in real life get themselves caught. They are far easier to track down that some guy/gal on a forum.

[kris martin]

My brother in law told me a story the other day. His window claner works 7 days and usually cleans him on a Sunday. The last time he was boasting about how with his benifits and window ceaning he was pulling in 800 a week. He obviously didn't realise my bil's wife worked for the IR and my partner, his sister works for the Jobcentres!

It is the mouthy boasful ones that in real life get themselves caught. They are far easier to track down that some guy/gal on a forum.

serves himself right, thats wrong..

[davids3511]

I agree. He obviously didn't understand someone(me and you) has to pay to educate his kids and treat him in hospital when he needs it!

[Paul Coleman]

Rog

Where do you get your figures from.

I declare every penny that comes through my business, I try to get all my customers to give cheques so there is very little cash involved.

Concentrate on improving your turnover instead of concentrating hiding a few quid from the taxman.

Its always the same ones who take money under the table who dont go very far in business, i see it in all walks of life not just in window cleaning

I prefer to play it straight too Dave.  I nearly lost a job over it recently too.  The guy wanted a discount for cash but I told him that however he paid me it was going through the books so no discount for him.

[Paul Coleman]

Declare everything  

Sleep well at night... Let the tax man come!  

One easy way to avoid this tips situation is not to accept them!  :

I don't do Christmas, so I would be a hypocrite to accept Christmas tips!  
All my customers know this and accept it!  
Some of my customers give a bottle of wine as an end of year gift... this I accept!  

Each to their own!  

I think you're even supposed to declare the value of the wine in your books.  I don't think it's right that tips should have to be declared but I do it anyway because those are the regs.  I can see where IR are coming from though because if they weren't taxed, the numbers could be manipulated so that a large percentage of your income would be tips.  In order to avoid a nightmare scenario (for them) of policing what counts as a tip and what doesn't, they just have a blanket rule that all tips are taxable.

[TennetClean]

why am i not surprised that mr squeaky clean is dishonest.

Whoever just said that those who are doshonest tend not to do very well, has hit the nail on the head.

Those who dont declare their full earnings and dont pay their dues are often the same ones who will then moan that prescription charges, tax on fuel, etc etc is too high.

Maybe if all the theiving scoundrel operators paid their way our taxes wouldnt be so high.

Absolutely detest people who fiddle the government.  really really gets my goat.  May a plague of lucusts infest your underpants.