[Mike Halliday]

Dave, he works mornings leafleting, does carpet cleaning in the afternoon, or his wife helps him and they do 2hrs a night

its £350 if he only gets £50 a job, I can't remember the last time I did a job for £50, my average is probably nearer the ton.

he's already working 20hrs before his carpet cleaning so whats the difference.

and how slow does he have to work for 7 minimum price jobs to take him 15hrs : :

[Buster Ingram]

Put like that it would add up

On another note I have had a gander at your new leaflet and must say it does look good

[Andy Hogarth]

Put like that it sounds so easy

I work at the rm on thursday friday and saturday, 7 till 12 or 1 if busy, The money is pants there but I'm certainly not chasing it, I just like a bit of a contingency plan. I took them hours so I could have the most part of the week c/c'ing
I'm going to hammer the leafleting next week, I've plenty to get out so I'll keep you posted
Any chance I could see one of your leaflets Mike, or anyone elses

Cheers

Andy

[Matt Lindus]

It all sounds like a real pain in the arse doesn’t it. We were getting pestered last week with a few people wanting lounges done for about £45. One woman had hired a rug doctor from homebase, couldn’t get through to the store on the phone so rang us asking how you use the machine!!.
By Thursday I had pulled the phone line out of the wall because these idiots were getting in the way of my communication business.
There must be a way of getting carpet cleaning to pay, I’m not going to back down now, not after telling people that i could get the business to the same level as the Arial and communication business.

I have been spoiled well and truly over the years with a business that just rakes in as much money as you are willing to let it and have to constantly regulate rapid expansion. We turn away on average 35% of new enquires which is a good figure in this business. We are quite new so can handle almost all new enquires.
A friend of mine has a massive house with swimming pool and helicopter in garden and is turning away about 85% of his incoming business. So therefore 15% of manageable business is turning him and 8 workers over a profit of £1.7 million per annum. don’t know what is Nett profit is, but will be large.

Matt

[markpowell]

Andy,
Wouldnt you be better spending 18 hours a week taking your leaflets out instead of working for RM?
Mark

[Mike Osbourne]

I think he does, at the same time.

Mark has a point, I gues it's a leap of faith thing and also the lag in cashflow between delivery and results. And as we all know results are not consistent month in month out.

[carpetworx]

It all sounds like a real pain in the arse doesn’t it. We were getting pestered last week with a few people wanting lounges done for about £45. One woman had hired a rug doctor from homebase, couldn’t get through to the store on the phone so rang us asking how you use the machine!!.
By Thursday I had pulled the phone line out of the wall because these idiots were getting in the way of my communication business.
There must be a way of getting carpet cleaning to pay, I’m not going to back down now, not after telling people that i could get the business to the same level as the Arial and communication business.

I have been spoiled well and truly over the years with a business that just rakes in as much money as you are willing to let it and have to constantly regulate rapid expansion. We turn away on average 35% of new enquires which is a good figure in this business. We are quite new so can handle almost all new enquires.
A friend of mine has a massive house with swimming pool and helicopter in garden and is turning away about 85% of his incoming business. So therefore 15% of manageable business is turning him and 8 workers over a profit of £1.7 million per annum. don’t know what is Nett profit is, but will be large.

Matt

Nob...

[Ian Gourlay]

A lot of leaflets are not pulling two jobs per thousand so the entire idea collapes

I think Len said the other day he put out 15K and got zilch

Im still down to 1 per thousand

[Mike Osbourne]

Ian

What's your delivery method?

[mark_roberts]

You need a good mix of customers in this game to iron out the peaks and troughs (sp).

As for regular work any commercial you do should be offered a 6 month clean or less depending.  Residential is yearly to three years.  But they wont suddenly think of you at these time YOU have to remind them.  Some have D/Debit plans but too much hassle for me but it does work.

Building a cleaning business on your own takes time.  With the way the economy is at the minute I'd keep in good terms with Royal Mail.

Mark

[davep]

3 Days on the post must give you £130 after tax?  Go with Mike and use that time to earn more without slogging a mailbag through all weathers!

[Mike Halliday]

Ian do your leaflets go out solo, by someone who cares about how they are delivered?

if Andy put out his own lealfets by themselves I believe he would hit 2 per1000 especailly if he leafleted betreen the hours of 6pm & 8pm.

mike

[Mike Halliday]

PS:....

"Len put out 15k and got ziltch......"

OK lets all stop leafleting, obviously leaflets  don't work because they didn't work on this occasion for Len : :

wasn't someone saying last month they put out 600 and got 8 jobs.

[davep]

Thats interesting regarding the times, I find the best response if they go out in the morning around the time the mail arrives..

I get jobs off flyers that are 18 months old so dont expect a response the same day 

[Ian Gourlay]

Mike

My Leaflets go out Solo I have reports on roads done and due to me showing where to go I am able to track to ensure leaflet has been delivered. Although  looking for one other trader to share cost

In fact he is very  conscientious just got off phone after 15minute detail report including the weather conditions etc also Ger details of leads from people in gardens etc

I very much doubt that it is possible to get 3.5k out in 15 hrs  calling at  60k  household income properties

Also by limiting supply and asking for street details numbers etc  I am reasonably confident that they are being delivered

[stevegunn]

PS:....

"Len put out 15k and got ziltch......"

OK lets all stop leafleting, obviously leaflets  don't work because they didn't work on this occasion for Len : :

wasn't someone saying last month they put out 600 and got 8 jobs.

Its got to be regular, one off drops don't always work,that's the whole problem because it doesn't work first time its no good : I did a job yesterday ,she got the leaflet last year but kept it for future use now not everyone does that.

[davep]

Lets have a peek at your flyer Ian..

[Mike Halliday]

Ian I am surprised that you don't get 2/1000.

perhaps I'm looking at things through rose coloured glasses and am underestimating my own distribution method.

until this year I did about 20k a month (5k a week) this brought in easily more than 10 jobs a week. and this was  when it was put out with an A5 booklet and sometimes 2 other leaflets ( buy usually only 1 other leaflets).

perhaps i live in a good area.

Mike

[Mike Halliday]

Ian I know you don't agree with my estimate about how long it takes to put out a 1000 leaflets, which I say takes 6hrs maybe 7hrs if they have long drives.

but I think the confusion comes from how I calculate it, I would never say anyone could do this figure in one go, but in 1hr-30mins or 2hr stints I thinks it possible at this rate you can have a good pace.

so anyone can do a 1000 a week working just 2hrs spread out through the day.

I don't think any one can sustain any longer than this over a long period, because leafleting is mind-numbingly boring.

But..... for a short period and perhaps with help ( kids, wife, friends etc) larger numbers (I believe) are possible

[davep]

Andy can tell you how many can be done in a hour if he is a Postie..