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Paul Simpson

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Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« on: June 04, 2008, 05:37:17 pm »
After alot of haggling and giving a demo to the worst affected area with an audience of 3 secured a restaurant job today in a chinese restaurant .
Black top all along traffic lane between tables and fairly bad on the stairs as well.

Tried, Multipro, Ashbys Prespray & Ultrapac renovate, (not all at the same time obviously) agitating & scoring into the black top, none of which produced great results. 
After alot of pointing and debating between themselves in their own language I could see they weren't overly impressed and done a small patch with Citrus Gel (agitated) and suddenly they looked happy and started talking prices (queue - haggling).

Any suggestion on the best citrus based prespray I can use as its gonna work out very expensive in citrus gel. Need it before Saturday (ordering time, etc).
Thanks

Glynn

  • Posts: 1129
Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 05:42:20 pm »
HM greasebreaker
Regards
Glynn

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 05:43:53 pm »
and hot!!

Shaun

kinder clean

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 05:45:11 pm »
Just wondered what price you settled on per sq/mtr, I've got one to look at on Friday

Paul Kinder Clean

Steve Chapman

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 05:47:16 pm »
paul,

we do a fair number of chinese and indian restaurants and always use prochem power burst as a prespray in hydraforce sprayer followed by an acidic rinse,

the key is really getting down enough prespray and having a lengthy dwell time, ideally prespraying again before cleaning, nice hot water aswell, most if not all of this black top will come of if you just allow the prespray to do it its work!

These type of carpets are normally quite resillient but obviously good to do the usual checks.

In my experience chinese & indian restaurants will always try and beat you down on price, so start fairly high, but usually if you do a good job they will be a regular customer and recommend you to their friends, so prob worthwhile

regards
steve

John Gregory

Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 05:51:36 pm »
Glynn    Why not Blitz


Thank   John

stevegunn

Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 06:01:39 pm »
Citra Clean from Bio Productions is good on black top

markpowell

  • Posts: 2279
Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 06:16:20 pm »
Prochem Powerburst hot pre-spray, agitation and dwell then rinse with fabric and fibre rinse if wool, if synthetic use Doubleclean.
Mark

Doug Holloway

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 06:19:03 pm »
Hi Guys

This is one of the few occaisions I would use an enzyme pre spray, leave for 20 _ 30 mins and make sure you extract very well.

Cheers

Doug

john rees

  • Posts: 391
Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 06:21:44 pm »
     Paul                                                                                                                                                                
  I agree with Steve if you do a good job they will be regular clients. We  clean at least a dozen  indian and chinese restaurants on a regular basis, hydramaster soil break,prochem powerburst,hydramaster blitz and chemspec's enzall would all do the trick with a little help from hydramasters greasebreaker and plenty of heat!!

                              All the best
                                                John
john

Len Gribble

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 06:50:13 pm »
Paul

Multipro did not work :o.   Now I’m gob smacked always works for me and I do some of the ***** pubs you can only have nightmares about.

Blitz/Um also works well

Hope you budgeted for it  ;)

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

colin thomas

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 06:58:08 pm »
len i'm sure multi pro would work but at what dilution rate? you must be using it at something like 3 or 4 to one, something like blitz is more economical surely,

colin
colin thomas

Len Gribble

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2008, 07:58:55 pm »
Colin

Dilutions rates what it says on the container, blitz very economical I pick it up and good, as I have run out of both, next week doing a demo with pure clean have high hopes think that’s 8-1 haven’t done the costing on this but already got it.

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

*paul_moss

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2008, 08:03:51 pm »
Blitz with grease breaker added, or a good one is Enzall ( enzyme) with a scopp of energiser added to it.
Either one will eat it up.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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Paul Simpson

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2008, 08:11:25 pm »
Thanks for the replies.
Have got a Prochem dealer I can pick up from so guess I'll give powerburst a blast.

Len - Multipro didn't seem to work, having said that I only had my brush for agitation and probably didn't leave it dwelling long enough, put that down to the audience watching my every move.



 

Karl Wildey

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 08:21:05 pm »
chemspec enzall, let it dwell 15 mins, no probs, never fails, worth buying just to try as you will never regret, have both blitz and powerburts on the van, always use the enzall in the worst cases.

homenclean

  • Posts: 587
Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 08:22:15 pm »
The one every one has missed, and in my opinion the best of the lot Craftex Champion.

Buy in 25l containers for just over £35.00 + vat order before 3 pm and it is with you the next day carriage free.

I have used this on pubs indians, fish & chip restaurants and it does the job. But dont wear your best clobber from experiance heavy black top crates a thick muddy solution after pre spray.

John

Len Gribble

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 08:39:39 pm »
Paul

Agitation know what you mean lent mine to a friend today so left the carpet brush in the van.

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

stevegunn

Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2008, 08:46:43 pm »
The one every one has missed, and in my opinion the best of the lot Craftex Champion.

Buy in 25l containers for just over £35.00 + vat order before 3 pm and it is with you the next day carriage free.

I have used this on pubs Indians, fish & chip restaurants and it does the job. But don't wear your best clobber from experience heavy black top crates a thick muddy solution after prespray.

John

Good old champion used it yesterday on a pub in Durham absolutely filthy,really needed replacing but owner insisted came up a treat

Karl Wildey

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Re: Black Top - Chinese restaurant
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 08:52:37 pm »
yeah your right champion is the one we always forget