[ollie]

I payed £1.27 today in Gowerton. At this rate it will be £1.50  in a few months. 

[Joe H]

They do reckon thats where it is going - £1.50 by Sept.

The price are in the hands of OPEC etc toa great wxtent, but the VAT is added to each increase, meaning MORE taxes for the government to waste.

[The Great One]

HI

It's different factors.

Obviously the 2p hike here and there doesn't help.

This recent (last few months) has been fuelled (excuse pun) by the hedge fund managers speculating on the commodity markets (oil futures) which has in turn pushed up every other commodity.

Iron Ore out of Brazil has gone up 70%, whereas shipping has gone up 20%, China which takes most of it agreed to the rise back in Feb (they had little choice) although the bottom has just fallen out of the Indian Iron Ore market the last 2 weeks.

Thing is of course that when crude drops again (if) unleaded & diesel won't drop with it.

Regards

Martin

[Joe H]

Hi Martin

Where do you get all this info from?

Its amazing you find time to do cleans

Always informative though.

Still not got fully into the Envirodri.
I had a chat with them at Carpex and th "new" rep said he was in Cheshire in April and would contact me and arrange a visit - but sadly no contact.

[david washbrook]

had to pay £133.9 today and was informed it will be £140 in the next couple of weeks

[Shaun_Ashmore]

It was only last year that it was less than a £1, but knowone is argueing with the government, makes you wonder if all of this green issue is government fueled (no pun) as the price goes up the 'greenies' say that it's better for the planet that we don't use our fossil fuel vehicles.

Is there a creditable alternative? non that will bring in the same revenue for the taxman!

Shaun

[dan roberts]

I'm with Joe Hatton on this one. Martin you are just quoting poope out of The Times instead of voicing your own opinion, not really what the forum's about eh?
So, to get back to the bare bones of this convo, everyone with a diesel needs to check out thoroughly the prospects of Bio Diesel, its a renewable source, rape seed, grown here. Dont listen to this Times Eco Monkey blurbing poope about rain forests for sensationalism when the answer is literally right on most peoples doorsteps.

Cheers

Dan

[spencer davies]

The rape seed grown on the land cleared after de forestation in other parts of the world, the government should ease up on the massive taxes it takes. 

Bloody government.


S

[Jason Hedges]

Bloody government.

S

HERE HERE!!!!!!

Trouble is if we kick one lot out the next will be the same

[spencer davies]

Not true, this lot came to power inheriting an extremely strong economy, they have *****d it up with non existent management and ridiculous decisions, they will look after you if you want to sit around on your backside all day though 

Regards


S

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

had to pay £133.9 today and was informed it will be £140 in the next couple of weeks

Good grief!!!!! Now that is inflation. 10,000% inflation!!!

Typos strike again

[Steve Chapman]

any body know how easy it is to get into producing your own bio fuel ?

have been thinking about it of late, but was put off a bit by the papers saying its damaging some vehicles !


steve

[stevegunn]

Was £1.31 on the way to Leeds yesterday

[murky]

The goverment did all it could do to keep fuel costs below the psychological barrier of £1.00, ( dont forget that you are now paying about £5.00 per gallon in old money.)

When I first started driving my dad would send me up the road to put £1.00 worth in and we got 3 gallons 3 x 3/6d.

Now it has gone past that it will continue to go up and up, they are pulling in more tax and VAT the more it goes up.

I have allways run diesel vans and cars etc, but my partner is getting new company car and we are going for petrol because of the fuel savings.

Murky

[The Great One]

I'm with Joe Hatton on this one. Martin you are just quoting poope out of The Times instead of voicing your own opinion, not really what the forum's about eh?
So, to get back to the bare bones of this convo, everyone with a diesel needs to check out thoroughly the prospects of Bio Diesel, its a renewable source, rape seed, grown here. Dont listen to this Times Eco Monkey blurbing poope about rain forests for sensationalism when the answer is literally right on most peoples doorsteps.

Cheers

Dan

I have never read the times! Oh, & I'm certainly not an Eco anything, I have about as much time for the deluded Climate alarmists as i do for your abusive posts.

But to set the record straight...

What I have written is my own experience (I'm not just a cleaner)

As you seem to want to carry on being abusive, this shows how blinkered you are, take them off and have a look around, try doing some research instead of burying you head in the sand.

Look, the government are not going to lower the price, as it will impact their taxes, and as for the myth that not buying from shell or esso or BP, this is total rubbish as it is these companies that take it out of the ground and own the refineries, so no matter where you buy your fuel, you buy from them.

Not all crude is the same either. Most people think crude is thick black liquid. this isn't true. Crude from Venezuela (PDVSA) is the thick black stuff, where as crude from Libya is (Al Brega, 1 of 7 crudes out of Libya)a 'sweet crude' it's the colour of Honey and is called 'The beautiful Crude' as it hardly needs any refining. Nigeria is also a sweet crude (Bonny light crude Oil, BLCO) Nigeria being the 5th largest crude producer in the world.

REBCO (Russian Export Crude Oil) is what obviously come out of Russia at the moment it is one of the biggest field and they can charge what they want for it, they also produce (LNG (liquid Natural Gas) LPG (Liquid petroleum Gas) but it is difficult to move and you need special refineries to convert it to usable fuel.

Colorado has a massive oil field but it is locked up in the sand, difficult to extract i.e. expensive.

There is also the south Atlantic Oil field, as yet this hasn't been extracted but estimates put it at around 6 Billion Barrels.

Read about the rapeseed crop here in the UK and they are (finally exposing the myth that it is good for the planet, when it is blantantly obvious it isn't. It is the Bio fuel gold rush that is one of the factors pushing up the price of food (as well as the price of oil and the bad weather last year with floods here, drought in Oz and the worst winter in 100 years in China)

Wheat alone has almost tripled in 18 months.

Please point out which paper all this is from...

But, dan, i'm sure you knew all this anyway.

Martin

P.S. Oh, forgot

I only mention the enviroment because some people believe it is man damaging it.

I am of the belief that Global warming is natural, like it has been for millions of years.

If you are using bio diesel for financial reasons then this is really a false economy as it is one of the resons for higher food prices. additionally, if we use millions of tons of bio diesel and less petrol/diesel the oil companies will need to put the price up to cover the loss of selling less fuel, to make the same returns.

[davep]

Maybe LPG Conversions is the way (unless your diesel)

[dan roberts]

Martin,

I apologise. You are the man with the global fuel crisis answers, and I underestimated that.
Those beautifully scripted, long and laborious scriptures of yours really have highlighted to me why you are there with your best photo possible in view, chatting away on a web site not designed for masterminds, but still, there you are, Billy Big Bananas with his cutting edge political stance on global warming and basic know it all attitude to everyone, be littling anyones attempts to earn a pound or two and ranting on all about the stuff you've read on ITV Nightscreen.
Martin The Carpet Cleaning Whizz Kid.

Wicked.

Dan

[richie]

Dan,

There is no need for your comments/insults towards Martin.  Just because what he says is beyond your liking does not give you the right to slag him.

Richie.

[The Great One]

Thanks Richie.

Dan, I really wish I did have all the answers, sadly I don't. I was simply trying to clarify to you that I do not get my info from a newspaper.

I have been involved with the commodity industry in a certain capacity for about 3 years, so I know a little about oil and other commodities, it is from my own experience.

Neither do I know everything about CC, if I knew everything then life would be extremely boring. I don't mind banter on here, had a fair bit with Len, insults show how angry you are, you were beliitling me, not the other way around. I was simply & politely (as I could under you barrage of insults) answering your posts.

You can research all I have written, if I am wrong I will gladly hold my hands up & apoogise.

I cycle a lot to my clients and to price jobs up, not for an GW impact, it's simply to save money on bleeding fuel, although using the bio diesel will save you a few quid a month which is great, it is cancelled out by the increase in food prices., Bio fuel is just one of the reasons for the increase along with higher fuel prices & weather impact. It was just a simple fact that the more goes into bio fuel production the less enters the food chain, this creates a supply and demand issue and hence the price rises.

I chose a picture I had handy at the time (it's about 6 years old now) put one up of yourself if mine hurts you so much, didn't realise my stunning, model handsomeness : made you so uncomfortable?

Sorry you are so agrieved (spelling) but your anger is misdirected.

Martin

[from edge2edge]

Reference Martin606. They say the proof is in the pudding(or something like that) and i have spoken at length to Martin from Brighton reference host carpet cleaning and found him very helpful and informative.Comes across as a nice guy who is happy to impart his knowledge to others.Just the kind of guy that gives this forum a good name.Alan(swindon)