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John Gregory

How long
« on: March 28, 2008, 07:50:07 am »
how long do you lads reckon it wound take to clean 12000 square foot in a open plan office. Customer wants it doing weekends only , never done anything this big before and I don't no what to quote . Will be using truckmount and wand

Thanks  John

Mike Halliday

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Re: How long
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2008, 08:05:28 am »
(off top of my head)

1 man;
300ft an hour
3000/10hrs
12000/40hrs.

just wanding not allowing for stopping, vaccing or pre-spraying

I'd allow 2 long weekends for a 2 man team
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: How long
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 08:25:12 am »
(off top of my head)

1 man;
300ft an hour
3000/10hrs
12000/40hrs.

just wanding not allowing for stopping, vaccing or pre-spraying

I'd allow 2 long weekends for a 2 man team


or you could pass the job to a t.mer with am rx20 sit back do northing and take a cut ??

Re: How long
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 08:41:54 am »
John

You haven't said exactly what the carpet is. Would a LM system be an option?

John Gregory

Re: How long
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 08:49:03 am »
Mike

the carpet is polyprop low profile LM would be ideal but I dont have one nor have I got the funds to go and buy one at this moment in time

John

Re: How long
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 09:23:59 am »
I'd be tempted to buy one on a credit card and pay it off with your windfall.

John Gregory

Re: How long
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 09:41:58 am »
Mike 

I might just do that, How long would this sort of job take using a dry fusion system and how much would it cost in chems  etc

Thanks   John

nick p

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Re: How long
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 09:57:00 am »
do you have to move desks etc
ive just done a large office 9500 sq foot didnt have to move anything prespray aggitate extract no breaks done over 2 nights took me 15 hours

Re: How long
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 10:07:53 am »
John

As Susan as suggested might be an idea to get someone witha DF or similar to do the job with you and from there on in you know what's what.  If you buy one make sure you've def got the job first. ;)

Mike Roper

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Re: How long
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 10:36:00 am »
Weve done an office block on two floors ,approx 1500sq m with dry fusion a number of times.We have 3 teams going of 2 min . takes around 10 hrs give or take. Someone has got to take dirty pads to laundrette mid way through or you run out of pads. With prespray and activator in wringer we would do it with under 25ltrs ie £110.
You need to work price out two ways to see if they match - work your costs for doing tho job and profit you want for the time you estimate it taking , then think of a figure per sq m , these should match up near enough to show your on the right lines. A job this size with LM can work out as low as £ 1.20 sq m and still be a good earner.
Mike

richie

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Re: How long
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 11:06:10 am »
im with Mike on the time scale,  2 weekends.  As for price you could charge it 1 of 4 ways.  what would you have to charge to make a good profit & to cover expenses;

a,  per sqm
b,  per hour
c,  per day
d,  per job

I have just worked a price out in 2 ways and come up with pretty much same price for both (sqm & hourly)  so i would charge between £4500 - £5000.

Richie



John Gregory

Re: How long
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 11:21:29 am »
Richie   are my maths right that works out at 40p a sq f

John

Mike Halliday

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Re: How long
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 11:42:10 am »
i would think my price would be closer to £3000
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

richie

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Re: How long
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 12:29:18 pm »
John,

I quote at £2.50sqm however on a job that large i would quote as low as £1.20 minimum giving you an overall price of £4388.40. 

I priced a job a few weeks ago at £1.35sqm that was 2600sqm and got the job even though they had 3 other quotes 1 been more expensive the other 2 cheaper.  In fact 1 quote was over £600 cheaper.  When i met up with the client i took him around the worst areas giving him my honest opinion of expected results.  Then we went down to the van which was fitted with the TM.  I opened the side door and he had the WOW factor.  I have always shown the client the van & TM whenever possible as this is halfway to getting the job.  We went back inside had a coffee and discussed the quote.  He was happy to accept my quote as i had shown him impressive van with impressive TM,  i had informed him that i would normally charge £2.50sqm but on large jobs go to £1.65sqm and added that because the area he wanted cleaning was VAST i would go as low as £1.35.  Job was booked in there & then.  Providing the job is done to the highest standards (which it will be) the client wants me to put together a maintenance programme for him (which im 100% sure he will go for).  There will be a 3 man team on site using the TM & LM

My secret is;

Make sure your van & equipment are VERY CLEAN & TIDY.
Be sure to be honest on areas of concern.
Most of all, BE CONFIDENT.

Richie.


lands

Re: How long
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 12:50:50 pm »
John

I'm sure someone will lend you what you need I can think of someone off the top of mny head but you can ring me for that idea. Alternatively, are there not any friendly suppliers near you that will hire you something?

I agree with Mike. Go nearer to £3000 as you may lose job on price and at 4 days thats £750 a day but it won't take you anywhere near that using non HWE system. . Good luck and call me if you want. 07816 276290

Pete

Mike Roper

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Re: How long
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2008, 01:16:18 pm »
Is it my maths but isnt 12000sq ft around 1114 sq m , if so I dont think youll get it for £3000 and it wont take 2 weekends.
Mike

richie

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Re: How long
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2008, 01:52:25 pm »
PLEASR EXCUSE MY MATHS.......I GOT MY CALCULATIONS WRONG

I would quote 1115sqm @ £2.10sqm = £2341.50.  This would be done with 2 men taking no more than 1 1/2 days.

Richie.

prodry

Re: How long
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2008, 02:14:53 pm »
18 months ago i did 16000 sq. ft on my own (not moving desks so nearer 12000 sq.ft.). With a Ninja attached to a Extracta Scrubba in 12 hours and charged £700.00. Rainbow had quoted £750.00 to bonnet.

Was knackered afterwards with corns and blisters on my hands. I was 27 at the time and was still running marathans at the time. 

Doing again end of april this time charging £895.00 and running two portys with two helpers getting £100.00 cash each. There is a pub across the road with football showing on a Saturday. Older, wiser, fatter.... ;D


John Gregory

Re: How long
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2008, 02:47:43 pm »
Right chaps just got back from quote , Job can not be done with Truckmount coz of security reason's  , The office is in use 24/7  so LM it is , I'm going back Tuesday with written quote and risk assessment . I think the job is mine so is £1.20 sq m  +( the cost of some barrier mats to put down on some marble floor while I,m working) . a competitive price

All I've got to do now is buy a LM system and learn how to use it

Thanks   John

Doug Holloway

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Re: How long
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2008, 02:52:17 pm »
Hi John

Try ringing one of your local CC's with a low moisture system.

I would certainly hire you my Tex for  £100 but it's a bit far to go ;D

This way you can see whether you like LM a nd try before you buy.

Cheers

Doug