[geefree]

Does anyone know how to baffle them, as they are by far a cheaper option than all these on ebay , where it seems everyone has jumped on the "baffled tank" bandwagon.

cheers

Gary

[pjulk]

Buy some waste pipe cut it into sections to fit inside your ibc and fill your ibc up with them it should look like a honeycomb when finished

Paul

[steve m]

I read somewhere that they put large bore flexible pipe, the type they put into the ground

[geefree]

Thanks lads....

that bloody fly again Paul 

so do i cut the black 4" or 3" pipe so it wedges between top and bottom..

if not how do i stop the pipes from swishing around with the water..

and how can i fix them in.

cheers..

[pjulk]

Im not sure which way you do it i remember it from a previous post on here where someone baffled there IBC with waste pipe.

Im sure someone will come on and say though


Paul

[pjulk]

found the link.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13375.0

[geefree]

Thanks for that paul.... found one myself too.... i copied it below in case anyone else interested.


 Measure the distance from the inside of the top of the tank to the bottom.
Each lengh of pipe will need to measure the same. Turn the tank on it's side with the filler hole in front of you. feed the pipes into the tank as you would put cigs into a packet. It will depend on where your filer hole is located, but when the pipes have reached the filler hole you will have to make  space by pushing pipe lenghs
upwards in order to push the next lengh in. When you have filled the tank with pipe lenghs, you look into the filler hole and the inside of the tank will look like a honeycomb.
When you fill the tank with water, it's movement  is resticted. It can only travel forwards, backwords or sideways within the confines of each individual pipe and the spaces in between.
when you  go into a sharp lefthand bend your van wants to carry streight on. It has to follow the front wheels though and this pushes the vans weight to the right.
Without baffling the additional weight of water moving to the right would make the van unstable, and could cause it to overturn. The same would apply to stopping in an emergancy. The additional movement of water to the front would seriously impair breaking.
The difference baffling makes, is the same as the difference between a push and a punch. I can't think of any simpler way of putting it. The amount of pipe you would need depends on the size of tank and diametre of pipe.
Hope this helps. DAi 
 
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[poleman]

IBC tanks are normal use for static system only! if you are baffling to put in a van, then you need to ask your self is the frame work of the tank going to be safe! I know I wouldn't like to have one in the back of my van!

Andy

 

[Ian_Giles]

It is way, way cheaper to use land drainage pipe (by a big margin too...have you priced up how much down pipe is?)
Land drainage pipe is flexible and perforated so I think it is possible to feed it in and let it coil all over the place- I'm not sure though as I haven't done it - but it is the method I would use, and much easier to do too.

Ian

[steve m]

the frame work must be man enough to go in a van as an IBC was made for that purpose, to transport fluids around in

[cat9921]

Does anyone know how to baffle them, as they are by far a cheaper option than all these on ebay , where it seems everyone has jumped on the "baffled tank" bandwagon.

cheers

Gary

What I did was wash out some pop bottles, It takes a long time but if you ask friend to save them for you, you will be surprised how quick you can baffle your tank 

[poles apart]

the frame work must be man enough to go in a van as an IBC was made for that purpose, to transport fluids around in

The frames they come in are not really strong enough to withstand a collision!

[poleman]

IBC tanks are indeed transported but are normal stacked together and in a lot of cases delivered to site empty, the problem is fixing it to the van floor, which is what they are not made for and there will be new rules from Department for Transport for safe securing of cargo and equipment in vans

http://www.whatvan.co.uk/news_s.asp?id=5092

Andy

[JSMC]

not once have i taken a delivery of an empty IBC. Ours carry liquids weighing up to 1250kg. There mus tbe over 100 empty ones in the yard just now

[geefree]

Thanks for all your replies guys.

i was looking at a 650 ibc , and was ging to secure it well.

but i am a little put off now

just one thing that puzzles me,

if its made to be  as secure as a standard baffle tank,   then then surely, the frame around it would give better protection in a crash situation, than a wydale 650 litre baffled tank for example.

As they have no protection at all,

Gary

[Alex Gardiner]

If you were able to securely mount/strap the IBC in a vehicle, then the integral structure of the combined frame and tank would indeed be as strong as a moulded tank.  The problem often lies in people bolting the base of the IBC frame down to the van and then expecting the IBC frame to do the holding of the tank.  The frame on an IBC is not strong enough to hold a tank inside in a crash situation.  It is designed purely to stop the internal tank deforming when full and to allow these tanks to be stacked one on to of the other for industrial use.

If you can come up with a frame or strap arrangement that goes around the whole of the IBC, then there is no reason why it would not be just as safe as any other tank.

[NWH]

I would buy a 1000ltr flat tank.

[scud]

  I have an IBC in my van, it is strapped down with lorry straps (they are plenty strong enough - was in transport for years) to the manufacturers strapping points (what they were designed for).
  It has not moved at all in 3 years, that includes some very heavy braking and my usual driving style of cornering too quickly.

[geefree]

so many opinion

i am confused now at what to get...  i think the baffled tanks are a rip off , but you all know im a tight git 

[scud]

  Gazza, I will say this and wait for the abuse - mine isn't even baffled, I have been meaning to do it for 3 years and not got round to it, I will be changing it to a 650ltr baffled flat tank soon, that is when I have laid my new drive and buried the IBC under the drive to store pure water in.