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mark311069

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2008, 09:14:55 pm »
hes just trying to make a quid like we all do,
not everyone has a all singing and dancing van mount and 5 poles.

jouk45

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2008, 09:26:03 pm »
mark its not about  how many vans we have or poles,  its about safety,  thats how we all moved over to wfp in the first place, but you do have to laugh at the pics, ;D

danny mckim

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2008, 09:35:07 pm »
Maybe this guy  stays here and is doing his own windows!  It happens

If  my wife was taking pictures of other windowcleaners i think i would be a bit concerned............



                Danny

scud

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2008, 10:00:05 pm »
  Have I logged onto a wrong site?

  Is this the sewing circle site?

  I have several jobs where I stand on my van roof to reach, for God's sake live and let live, the bloke is only 2 steps up a step ladder trying to earn a living.

Mike 108

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2008, 10:16:05 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D

brett walker

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2008, 10:38:06 pm »
lol

it wood be more dangerous crossing a busy road ;D


can any one donate a longer pole to him


brett

peter holley

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2008, 11:07:21 pm »
this guy in the picture is doing a house that he has stolen from another wc by saying he has taken over the round..

i know this to be fact >:( >:( >:( >:(

and no its not me >:(

Pj

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2008, 11:09:38 pm »
Well now

Thats a different story of health and safety >:(

mark dew

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2008, 11:29:11 pm »
if he's gonna use a stepladder he should at least have it facing onto the job. They have no stability from the side and i wouldn't go up 1 anymore because of it.

poleman

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2008, 11:48:35 pm »
this guy in the picture is doing a house that he has stolen from another wc by saying he has taken over the round..

i know this to be fact >:( >:( >:( >:(

and no its not me >:(


If he was taking work of me, no way would I sit back and let it happen, the photo would be sent to the local enforce officer, many have said he is not doing anything wrong, well they are wrong, and Mr H points are spot on, he has a good understanding off H&S and so do I

Andy   

WCE

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2008, 12:41:44 am »
After reading this post I am sure I know who it is and where the photos are taken. The guy has certainly didn't order the wrong size pole It's the pole he recommends and the best bit is he cant even take his own advice! Here's a quote of his from october 05 "my advice is wherever possible, use a pole which is long enough for what you need it for & no longer. My business is entirely residential & I use an 18 foot pole which reaches 98% of residential work. The other 2% I can live without." Obviously not!
WCE- For Windows that shine everytime!

Paul Coleman

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2008, 05:21:20 am »
I did exactly the same myself once when I didn't have a longer pole with me so I'm not going to knock the guy.  I did have the ladder facing the job though.  When I did it, it was only for one window.  I climb higher than that on stepladders regularly to lean over gates when undoing bolts.  Not sure what all the fuss is about as he might only be doing one property that way.  Maybe he has a longer pole but it got broken.  Easy to criticise when not knowing full facts.

Ian_Giles

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2008, 06:29:44 am »
It's one photo taken in isolation, and we all do things we shouldn't, most of us will break health & safety regs on a regular basis to some degree or another.

And if this fella is a forum member this thread will be removed...libel and so on...can't go around calling someone a low life!

But just to make a comment on his work practice...what he is doing is potentially quite dangerous, and most of the serious accidents on ladders happen on the lowest rungs.
just because he isn't 30ft up a ladder doesn't make this any less dangerous or precarious.

And the problem with health & safety is that there is always another little step that can be taken...
Did you know that on a building site, if you haven't got a certificate, you are not even supposed to change the blade on an angle grinder?
Why the hell does a painter and decorator need to wear a hard hat on site when he is the last guy on said site, construction finished, where is the risk of things falling on his head?
And if there is a risk, what is the probability of something falling on his head to cause injury?
There is a probability of course, easy enough to envisage a scenario where it could happen, which is what H & S does, but the likelihood of it happening is remote....

Work beckons...gotta go!

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

cbcs

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2008, 06:48:41 am »
This guy needs reporting. What a tool.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2008, 08:32:27 am »
This guy needs reporting. What a tool.
Yeah, what a daredevil maniac. ::)

What's wrong with you fairies?

craig b

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2008, 09:06:03 am »
poleman your so into to health and safety ..
i see in your  flyer your not wearing a hi vis jacket, no safety sign and and id be sure your not wearing steel toe cap boots.
is your staff kitted out the same way..(may be it is one of your staff if so you havent trained them very well)

no ones perfect ..

[GQC] Tim

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2008, 10:10:19 am »
This guy needs reporting. What a tool.
Yeah, what a daredevil maniac. ::)

What's wrong with you fairies?

Yea, I'm sure that in 6 weeks you can take 3 pics of me doing a more dangerous thing. lol

williamx

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2008, 10:16:33 am »
The reason that the Working at Height Directive was brought out, was because ladder users were going that one step too far, with regard to their own safety, and they either injured or killed themselves.

When the regulation was actioned in 2005, there was an uproar from ladder users about it, yet there are still people who think that its alright to do some jobs where safety is not an issue and accidents could happen.

It is up to us professionals to try and work safely, and when we see others who don't, then we need to criticized them, not congratulate them as some type of hero.

If we don't, then more restricting regulations will be come law, which we be enforced more rigorously.

s.hughes

Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2008, 10:25:12 am »
I cleaned a building like that guy once and it was even higher and on a slope. I did have someone holding the ladder. Once was enough I invested in a longer pole, it only does the one job and cost a fare bit but was worth it.

Steve

*foxman

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Re: whats? the point being wfp
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2008, 10:28:02 am »
H + S guys wouldn't do a thing!! If an officer passed him and decided to stop they would just tell him to get down and that would be it.

Reporting him would be a waste of time too, what would be the point? He wouldn't get fined or anything. Its a bit stupid but as they say necessity is the mother of invention! ;D