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Karl Wildey

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sissal/jute carpets
« on: December 09, 2004, 07:18:00 pm »
I have got to look at some sissal (or jute) carpets next week that need a good clean. I believe that wet cleaning them is not good due to bad smell afterwards, and hard to extract, due to uneven pile surface. I also believe that these carpets have to be dry cleaned, which from experience does not clean as well as wet cleaning.
Anyone got an advice on cleaning these carpets?

And no I do not have a dry fusion machine

Big_Fish

Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2004, 07:24:56 pm »
My advice is WALK AWAY.
Shrinkage, distortion, watermarking...you name it.

Nicky

Karl Wildey

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 07:39:40 pm »
The carpets are in a holiday let cottage, one cottage of 30 I clean, so its a big contract, and I need to have some good information, or I would walk away. I have always avoided cleaning these carpets in the pass, but was wondering if they is a magic solution, out there yet.

Dynafoam

Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 08:08:58 pm »
Karl,

See:

http://www.another forum.co.uk/?board=cc_issues;action=display;num=1088771636;start=7#7

and

http://www.another forum.co.uk/?board=cc_issues;action=display;num=1090857783

The Great One

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2004, 10:18:37 pm »
Hi Karl

I am LM i would have no probs at all, straight in.

If you're near Brighton, let me know.

Regards

Martin 8)

P.s. In my humble opinion dry cleaning can clean as deep as wet cleaning, depends on the system used. Just done some salvage cleans and came up as new :)

jacko

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2004, 10:29:48 pm »
Hi Karl

You need a quality dry compound system. I have used mine extensively with brilliant results. Did a seagrass carpet a few weeks ago - noone else would touch it. That job lead to 2 more big ones. Where are you based?

woodman

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 09:39:24 am »
Hi Martin

What LM system are you using on natural floorings.

paul@ctcs

Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 10:06:44 am »
Martin,

Dont take this the wrong way, I just cant see how LM cleaning can clean as deeply as a TM or top end Portable HWE machine??
 I have no doubts that there are a number of situations where a LM method is the system of choice and dont doubt your results are fantastic, but can a LM cleaning sytem reach the pile base?
 
Not Knocking your system Martin just asking a question :)

Paul

The Great One

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2004, 03:29:28 pm »
Hi

Never would take any offence mate!

Where LM is concerned I am more than used to the sceptisism and I do understand it, afterall HWE has been the mainstay of the industry for over 30 years.

I have just done a salvage clean which had compacted dog hair all the way from the bottom of the pile where at the top it looked like black stains. I got a grapefruit size ball of hair out of the carpet.

I would go up against any portable system with my LM system.

wool, sisal, jute...

No testing, no shrinkage, straight in, dry to go

Regards

Martin 8)

woodman

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2004, 07:09:19 pm »
Thats great Martin ;D


but what system are you using?

Ian Gourlay

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2004, 07:29:07 pm »
Perhapsw I better buy a Sebo Duo after all.

Ps Martin  how is Waterless progresssing.

Len Gribble

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2004, 07:39:09 pm »
Martin

Yesterday had similarly to you but on 3 piece used micro fibre cloth, handy bit of kit to have on board also good at agitation! (This is not a dig)

Woodman

One can ask.

Ian

You haven’t got one?

Len


Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

The Great One

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2004, 09:19:23 pm »
Hi

Len

I know you wouldn't have a dig, I was expecting a reply from you though.

I have posted before about HWE. It does an amazing job. But I feel that the world is moving faster and faster drying times are required (without the portable hurricane!) Hotels, offices with stacks of PC's and domestic. Everyone wants something and they want it now.

My system is not 'Jesus in a bottle' but I like it and the results speak volumes. Especially when my clients think the tenants have replaced the carpet where  I had just cleaned it. I am sure some of you have had this also.

My thoughts on HWE is that it is pushed so much when on courses because the companies have so much invested in it. Lm seems to be scourned yet it was only this 20 min demo on my course that was of the most interest to me. Looking around on the course seeing almost everyone trying to stay awake and on the upholstery one as well, was amusing, but I learnt my new trade.

Of course what I say here will upset some people I feel, some may want to attack but i will be staying LM. I sincerely do not want to go HWE for the forseeable future, who knows that may change.

Regards

Martin 8)

Len Gribble

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2004, 11:12:51 pm »
Martin

I made no mention of HWE, only that the micro cloths are a handy bit of kit & good at agitation even the LM systems need this or am I wrong!

All I will say each system has it place within the market place some get the black top more efficiently then others, which one is debatable then it down to personal plus price!

The problem we have here you sing the praises your system, but are still avoiding what was asked what system do you use? Having looked a several LM systems some very impressed with and are equal for the task but some not!

I would not worry about upsetting people on the forum, I do it all the time then I have very broad shoulders!

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

The Great One

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2004, 12:06:04 am »
Hi

Len you misunderstood, only the  1st line was for you.

Yes I of course do agitate.

I am just wondering though...

With H&S getting tighter than a gnats chuff, how long before HWE falls foul of the HSE. It is already getting so you can't even fart without having a pollution order against you, I'm almost scared to get out of bed!

Regards

Martin 8)


woodman

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2004, 01:22:10 pm »
Ducked the question again ;D

paul@ctcs

Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2004, 02:05:41 pm »
Come on Martin, what system do you use?? Dry fusion or Texatherm??

Karl Wildey

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2004, 11:57:33 am »
Thanks for all your comments if you did go off track a bit, but that is what make a good forum/discussion. Being new I assume LM means low maintanence? is this right.
I use hwe and have a tm, but definetly some interesting points about h&s, and in this day and age and this time of year people do what their carpets dry asap.

Martin what system are you using, it sound good and you seem to know your stuff, or are you avoiding this question cos you know all the hwe owners are going to start having ago again.

I'm based in Norfolk, for those that asked.


woodman

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2004, 12:54:00 pm »
Hi Karl

LM = Low Moisture ;)

Martin S

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Re: sissal/jute carpets
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2004, 03:30:46 pm »
Hi Martin (606)

You must have realized, that singing the praises of your LM system would result in people asking what system you use!!

And you've now achieved the air of ''mystique'' that you obviously set out to create!!

So come on mate!!

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Martin