[m b shaw]

hello there just thought i d introduce myself. i m mick half of m@b shaw been w/c over 22yrs w/f and trad.i really like reading this forum at times it s hilarious and then a bit sad but thats what makes it interesting. one thing i ve noticed is the amount of w/cs who seem to be set in there ways and don t like change i think this is a shame as every time we ve tried something new mostly its been for the better.for example we stopped ladder work years ago when it was unheard of and obviously that was the best thing that we ever did along with wfp of coarse.so in closing i ll just say keep posting it always cheers me up and don tforget this is one of the best jobs we ll ever have. ps if ever any body needs any help with advice please feel free

[shammy davis jnr]

hi mick nice to meet you andy here aka shammy davis im winded off today 60mph stuff done few shops this morning
up here in scotland hope its better down there

[Dean Aspects]

Welcome mate
I was one of those window cleaners that was stuck in my ways and then after reading lots of advice on here have managed to change many things all for the better now i challenge myself to doing things different or else the job goes stale and you soon lose interest and customers change is good
I too am winded off (is winded a word or has scrim just made it up) 

Dean

[LWC]

allow myself to introduce...myself

[squeejay]

welcome mate i was sceptical about wfp for years but its the best thing i ever done,so yes change is good it keeps you busy.

[pjulk]

Welcome to the forum
Myself i started window cleaning in 1987 and was a bit sceptical about WFP but changed over about 3 years ago i think but it was the best thing i did.

Now im 95% WFP and 5% traditional i still like the occasional bit of ladder work.

Best thing i did was change over.
WFP can be a pain at times like when it freezes or a pole hose splits whilst your working but minor stuff really.

Paul

[m b shaw]

thanks for the welcome i could nt reply sooner tiscali connection on & off. if we ran our jobs like them we  d all be poor 3 weeks since fault reported .guess who s d d is going to be stopped

[simon knight]

I'm the baby here having only been at it for 4 years. I'm trad because where I live and work wfp isn't a viable option...if it were I'd be well and truly poled-up!

It always seems strange that somebody who's been w/cing for 22 years is classified as a Newbie...yes i know "new to the forum"...Doh!!

A hearty welcome Mick

Rgds

Simon

[m b shaw]

thanks simon ido somtimes feel like a newbie just when i thought my work was sorted i think of somthing new or read somthing on here and i think i ll try that. i can t just plod on doing the same all the time. it drives ben my son and partner mad somtimes but he see s the point like when we do a big and high job and he never sets foot off the ground

[AuRavelling79]

Welcome to the asylum Mick!

[Ian Lancaster]

I'm trad because where I live and work wfp isn't a viable option...if it were I'd be well and truly poled-up!

That's a sweeping statement, Simon.  Are you sure?  When I first heard about WFP I couldn't envisage it being of any use on the sort of work I do.

Now I'm 99% WFP.

Still doing the same sort of work, only easier, faster and better.

[Blackbushe Windows]

Welcome to the forum Mick.


Peter

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

welcome mick, wfp way to go m8

[simon knight]

I'm trad because where I live and work wfp isn't a viable option...if it were I'd be well and truly poled-up!

That's a sweeping statement, Simon.  Are you sure?  When I first heard about WFP I couldn't envisage it being of any use on the sort of work I do.

Now I'm 99% WFP.

Still doing the same sort of work, only easier, faster and better.

Yep as I thought Sittingbourne Kent...nice suburban houses with either off street parking or zero parking restrictions...yes?

Please believe me, there is no chance of wfp where I work...I've lived here for 20 years and worked as a w/c for 4 years and have never ever ever seen any w/c with wfp...trust me as i know you mean well...get onto a train and look me up and I'll show you "my patch".

SW London w/cers are not behind-the-times thickos...we'd all swap over to wfp if it were viable...but it ain't so we can't.

It may work in the sticks...but in Putney it don't!

wfp better than trad?...Hmmm...don't get too many complaints about my work...actually in 4 years about 5 (and they were in my 1st year and probably justified!)

Simon

[Rob_Mac]

Ian

Simon is in Putney and there is nowhere to park - it is all residential parking down there.

When he says it isn't an option - it really is not an option - I know because we had a few days down there last November - steer well clear!!!!!!

Rob

[simon knight]

Ian

Simon is in Putney and there is nowhere to park - it is all residential parking down there.

When he says it isn't an option - it really is not an option - I know because we had a few days down there last November - steer well clear!!!!!!

Rob

Cheers Rob!

[m b shaw]

simon did nt realise your problem when i first read it. just makes me grateful for what i can do. might make my son stop wingeing just because he cant park the van exactly where he wants it

[simon knight]

No problem as far as I'm concerned. I'm fortunate in that I live in a highly populated area with high net worth individuals who for reasons unknown to me actually like and trust me!

I use ladders sensibly and frankly laugh at the f*g**ts (this word will be moderated...watch!) who say "I'll never use ladders again because they're too dangerous."

Makes me wonder why they ever took up w/cing in the first place.

Poofs the lot of them

[Ian Lancaster]

My apologies Simon,  I thought you meant the type of work.  More power to your elbow, and I endorse your tongue in cheek reference to poofs :

I started window cleaning in about 1969-70 and did all the London schools (the old "three-decker" ones with the artroom on the top).  We didn't use ladders, just climbed out and stood on the sills.

H&S would go into hysterics if they could see some of the stunts we used to pull

Don't get me wrong, I love ladder work, it's just that I'm getting a bit long in the tooth to do it day in and day out as I used to, that's why WFP is such a godsend to me

As to quality, yes, I agree you can't beat a skilled man with a squeegee, but I love the way you can bring the plastic frames etc back to looking like new with a couple of strokes of the brush

Cheers,

Ian

[simon knight]

Mate I still stand on sills ...and I'm 51 this year!

It has to be said there are some times...in the dead of night...when i say to myself "will tomorrow be your last day?"...

....long live wfp (for those who can use it!)

Good weekend mate

Simon