[P @ F]

Posts like this really do me in some times , but everybody has a valid point , in some way or other everybody is right , in my case , i have a 4k van 2001 , uniform thats gettiin on a bit , £875 diy system , £150 signwritting , facelift pole .3x gf poles , cd player , crap flyers and cards , but i am still the cheapest and may i say the best window cleaner in my area by far , i just dont have the business head to move on a level , i try but its not within me , im not ashamed of my lack of drive , but i have some fantastic jobs , which i will never lose , i manage my bills , my family are happy and dont go short of anything , what more can i ask of life ?
Mind you , i could always go back to my previous job , £215 take home for 50+ hours , or i can stay where i am , no hassle , less hours for 3 times that , not a look at me comment , just the truth , and for the taxmen that are reading this , check my return chaps , im honest

Rich P @ F

[L.J.Thorpe]

your van cost about 3 times mine but iam so with ya on everything else mind you i would like a nice van i just cant push myself that hard......mind you 2 years ago i had a L reg astra ....now t reg scudo....does its job ...just

[TennetClean]

oh dear. it looks like macmac has joined the ranks of the "can't win this argument so resort to insults" brigade.

LOL

Matt mate, i'm sure your diy system does you well.  Keep up the good work with those water barrells.  Dont you let anyone tell you it looks crap. 

And all you others who are taking the opportunity to have a go, wake up and smell the coffee.  New window cleaners are entering this business faster and faster and they have money to spend.  Do you think you are going to compete if you dont invest in your image.  The answer is NO.

The time of complacency is well and truly over.  Blokes are leaving city jobs becomming window cleaners, they aint gonna fanny around with DIY.  A recession is coming, that means redundancies, and that means people starting window cleaning with capital to spend.  Foreign workers are taking over jobs here at an amazing rate, and to be quite honest who can blame them.  They work harder, treat customers better and are content with less money.

I saw some polish fellas window cleaning the other day and I have to say they looked very smart.  Much smarter than your average British "couldn't even be bothered to shave" window cleaner.  Good for them, I hope they do great, they deserve to.

Window cleaning is easy pickings for them, and the only way we can compete is on quality. Do you think you will be able to continue to get buy with cobble together stuff in a crappy old van.  I doubt it.

Groundhog mate, cheers for your support.  But this forum is weighted towards the lower end of the window cleaning scale unfortunately, and they will never be convinced about good quality.  The only thing they can do is mock those of us with the money and attitude to do things professionally.  And when that fails they turn to insults.

Do I care? NO!  I'll lap it up and ask for more.  Would they say any of it to my face, LOL no because they are all keyboard warriors nothing else.

[L.J.Thorpe]

oh dear. it looks like macmac has joined the ranks of the "can't win this argument so resort to insults" brigade.

LOL

Matt mate, i'm sure your diy system does you well. Keep up the good work with those water barrells. Dont you let anyone tell you it looks crap.

And all you others who are taking the opportunity to have a go, wake up and smell the coffee. New window cleaners are entering this business faster and faster and they have money to spend. Do you think you are going to compete if you dont invest in your image. The answer is NO.

The time of complacency is well and truly over. Blokes are leaving city jobs becomming window cleaners, they aint gonna fanny around with DIY. A recession is coming, that means redundancies, and that means people starting window cleaning with capital to spend. Foreign workers are taking over jobs here at an amazing rate, and to be quite honest who can blame them. They work harder, treat customers better and are content with less money.

I saw some polish fellas window cleaning the other day and I have to say they looked very smart. Much smarter than your average British "couldn't even be bothered to shave" window cleaner. Good for them, I hope they do great, they certainly deserve to.

Window cleaning is easy pickings for them, and the only way we can compete is on quality. Do you think you will be able to continue to get buy with cobble together stuff in a crappy old van. I doubt it.

Groundhog mate, cheers for your support. But this forum is weighted towards the lower end of the window cleaning scale unfortunately, and they will never be convinced about good quality. The only thing they can do is mock those of us with the money and attitude to do things professionally. And when that fails they turn to insults.

Do I care? NO! I'll lap it up and ask for more. Would they say any of it to my face, LOL no because they are all keyboard warriors nothing else.

are you going to windex ?

[matt]

oh dear. it looks like macmac has joined the ranks of the "can't win this argument so resort to insults" brigade.

LOL

Matt mate, i'm sure your diy system does you well.  Keep up the good work with those water barrells.  Dont you let anyone tell you it looks crap. 

And all you others who are taking the opportunity to have a go, wake up and smell the coffee.  New window cleaners are entering this business faster and faster and they have money to spend.  Do you think you are going to compete if you dont invest in your image.  The answer is NO.

The time of complacency is well and truly over.  Blokes are leaving city jobs becomming window cleaners, they aint gonna fanny around with DIY.  A recession is coming, that means redundancies, and that means people starting window cleaning with capital to spend.  Foreign workers are taking over jobs here at an amazing rate, and to be quite honest who can blame them.  They work harder, treat customers better and are content with less money.

I saw some polish fellas window cleaning the other day and I have to say they looked very smart.  Much smarter than your average British "couldn't even be bothered to shave" window cleaner.  Good for them, I hope they do great, they certainly deserve to.

Window cleaning is easy pickings for them, and the only way we can compete is on quality. Do you think you will be able to continue to get buy with cobble together stuff in a crappy old van.  I doubt it.

Groundhog mate, cheers for your support.  But this forum is weighted towards the lower end of the window cleaning scale unfortunately, and they will never be convinced about good quality.  The only thing they can do is mock those of us with the money and attitude to do things professionally.  And when that fails they turn to insults.

Do I care? NO!  I'll lap it up and ask for more.  Would they say any of it to my face, LOL no because they are all keyboard warriors nothing else.

the whole point is, and im sure you will fail to see it, its the qaulity of YOUR work, not what van you drive or what brand kit you have, if you have the work and your good, you will keep it ( i hope ) and when you have a reputaion for doing good work, you get more work

Oh and everything i will write on here i will gladly say to your face, make no mistake about that

[TennetClean]

LOL you love me really.

You just misunderstand me.  Think of me like your friendly neighborhood devils advocate.  Only I'm actually right and you're not.

[P @ F]

Here here Matt , i agree , its the quality of the work not the system or van , i will say image is important , but i know, if some smarmy prick from the city turned up on one of my customers doorsteps, with a golden pole and diamond van , they would not take him on , due to the fact that i am so  damn good !

And by the way  Tennant, you may be a muscle bound freak , but i will gladly whoop yo ass at Windex , if you have the backbone to challenge me .    

 P@F , P@F   

[macmac]

LOL you love me really.

You just misunderstand me.  Think of me like your friendly neighborhood devils advocate.  Only I'm actually right and you're not.

I love you. no , i do realy, got any business tips for me?

Tony

[L.J.Thorpe]

so are you going to windex if so get a t shirt with tc on it so we all know who you are great marketing potential

[TennetClean]

woo hoo hoo all you nasty mean men ganging up on me, anyone would think you had insecurity issues that I was bringing out.  So much testosterone flying about, better watch my back eh.

LOL I havent decided whether or not I'm going to windex, the last one was somewhat crappy.  But if I do i wont be hiding in the shadows.  Do come and say "hello".  I'll show you mine if you show me yours - systems that is.

[L.J.Thorpe]

woo hoo hoo all you nasty mean men ganging up on me, anyone would think you had insecurity issues that I was bringing out. So much testosterone flying about, better watch my back eh.

LOL I havent decided whether or not I'm going to windex, the last one was somewhat crappy. But if I do i wont be hiding in the shadows. Do come and say "hello". I'll show you mine if you show me yours - systems that is.

note to all .....try reading these posts back to yourself in a "Dale Winton" stylee..made me laugh

[*foxman]

Do you think you are going to compete if you dont invest in your image.  The answer is NO.

The time of complacency is well and truly over.  Blokes are leaving city jobs becomming window cleaners, they aint gonna fanny around with DIY.  A recession is coming, that means redundancies, and that means people starting window cleaning with capital to spend.  Foreign workers are taking over jobs here at an amazing rate, and to be quite honest who can blame them.  They work harder, treat customers better and are content with less money.

Window cleaning is easy pickings for them, and the only way we can compete is on quality. Do you think you will be able to continue to get buy with cobble together stuff in a crappy old van.  I doubt it.

I never heard of a city job becoming a window cleaner?? Since when? 

If your competing on quality then you need to go back to ladders for the majority of the time?

One of my close friends has a round where he can leave his house each day with his set of ladders and walk the whole round each month. Doesn't even need a car let alone a van, sign written, etc. he earning about £100 - £150 a day easily. home by 2.30.  Polish/City Boy/30000k set up wouldn't get a lookin.

[P @ F]

Tenant my old fruit bat , what was wrong with the last Windex ?

I suppose the merchandise was too cheap for you !

 And i reckon it might have been full of scum of the earth window cleaners like myself , matt, and macmac .

HONEST JOE

[TennetClean]

Insert Quote
Tenant my old fruit bat , what was wrong with the last Windex ?

I suppose the merchandise was too cheap for you !

And i reckon it might have been full of scum of the earth window cleaners like myself , matt, and macmac .

HONEST JOE

LOL it wasnt the people, I just thought it was a bit small.  Only a handful of window cleaning things there, you could be done with it in an hour at most.

I suppose if you did carpet cleaning as well there would be more to interest you, but I don't.  Bit of a waste of time I thought.

[matt]

Insert Quote
Tenant my old fruit bat , what was wrong with the last Windex ?

I suppose the merchandise was too cheap for you !

And i reckon it might have been full of scum of the earth window cleaners like myself , matt, and macmac .

HONEST JOE

LOL it wasnt the people, I just thought it was a bit small.  Only a handful of window cleaning things there, you could be done with it in an hour at most.

I suppose if you did carpet cleaning as well there would be more to interest you, but I don't.

thats a normal type of post, not 1 of your usuall, you feeling ok ?? ? ?

[TennetClean]

Like I said matt, you misunderstand me.  LOL I wasnt joking about that

I might have strong views about stuff, but if you met me, you'd consider me the type of bloke to go down the pub for a pint and a chat with.  Easy going thats me.  No need to get all hot under the collar.  Just take life in your stride.  Thats my motto.

[L.J.Thorpe]

Very entertaining 

But it's a moot argument.

Those that disagree about the level of investment. why not post your
turnover for a year, along with the cost of your investment.

That way the rest of us can understand where you are coming from.

Look forward to seeing the figures.


Ewan 

post figures : :

[macmac]

Very entertaining  

But it's a moot argument.

Those that disagree about the level of investment. why not post your
turnover for a year, along with the cost of your investment.

That way the rest of us can understand where you are coming from.

Look forward to seeing the figures.


Ewan  

Turnover 3.4 billion with an investment of 1.54 pound sterling

Tony

[L.J.Thorpe]

tony.... four pence over a quid and half? you snob 

[matt]

Very entertaining 

But it's a moot argument.

Those that disagree about the level of investment. why not post your
turnover for a year, along with the cost of your investment.

That way the rest of us can understand where you are coming from.

Look forward to seeing the figures.


Ewan 

post figures : :

here we go

it'll go something like this

cost of van and system = 22 K
turnover = 95 K