[Village Gleam]

Haven't you already got a van MacMac?

So with the ten thousand you put another van on the road. Even you should be able to see the potential of that.

Next case

[NWH]

Mr Sol have you got hot water,if so i have a question.

[Village Gleam]

Shoot

[NWH]

Cheers,can you run the varistream on the same setting as you would on cold and get the same flow rate,do you use minibore and what`s the hottest you go on mornings like we`ve had of late.

[Village Gleam]

Firstly I'm not an hot expert , nor on wfp. I've read yours posts and I think you have more practical knowledge than I do on the general topic.

That said I believe my hot system is better than anyone else's. The key is it's simplicity and extreme low cost.

The system needs a variflow attached (obviously) to the pump. This variflow has to be set very high, about 2-3 O'clock to achieve the flow rate required to light the main burner.This does use a lot of water. I try to use the hose tap to slow this down a bit.

I use minibore. The system/flow beahves no differently to a cold system. (I do not have a DI on the van).

I like the water hot, that's just my preference. I cracked a pane a few days ago, so now on some windows I have to turn it down.

Remember when you start it comes out cold and warms up over four or five windows. If I had to critisise my system I would say it use's a lot of water and my control of the actual water temperature is a bit crude. As more people adopt it though i'm sure little tips and tricks and better way's of doing things will emerge.

I can promise you this though NWH, twenty minutes after first using your own  hot system you will never want to work cold again.

[matt]

ive explained before how to cut down on the water use

as the water comes out of the variflow

fit a Y

1 branch of the Y will go up the pole and the other will return into the water tank ( fit a tap on this pipe, so you can control how much goes back into the tank and thus in turn how much goes up the pole pipe

job done

[NWH]

Firstly I'm not an hot expert , nor on wfp. I've read yours posts and I think you have more practical knowledge than I do on the general topic.

That said I believe my hot system is better than anyone else's. The key is it's simplicity and extreme low cost.

The system needs a variflow attached (obviously) to the pump. This variflow has to be set very high, about 2-3 O'clock to achieve the flow rate required to light the main burner.This does use a lot of water. I try to use the hose tap to slow this down a bit.

I use minibore. The system/flow beahves no differently to a cold system. (I do not have a DI on the van).

I like the water hot, that's just my preference. I cracked a pane a few days ago, so now on some windows I have to turn it down.

Remember when you start it comes out cold and warms up over four or five windows. If I had to critisise my system I would say it use's a lot of water and my control of the actual water temperature is a bit crude. As more people adopt it though i'm sure little tips and tricks and better way's of doing things will emerge.

I can promise you this though NWH, twenty minutes after first using your own  hot system you will never want to work cold again.

Thanks,what system do you have.

[Village Gleam]

I can't do that Matt. I mean I don't think I can do that. The water must go through the heater or else it won't light. If you know of a way of splitting it after then maybe...

[Wayne Thomas]

I can't do that Matt. I mean I don't think I can do that. The water must go through the heater or else it won't light. If you know of a way of splitting it after then maybe...

Mr Solubility,

Why don't you fit a Y return after the boiler, instead of before the boiler like Matt suggested. That way you have the necessary flow going through the boiler half goes back to the tank (pre-heat your baffled tank) and the other half goes to your pole so you can slow down on your water consumption.

[Village Gleam]

Yes, I've been thinking about this. Jeff told me it had been done on the diy but i couldn't find it. The hose i need to spit is tricoflex between the heater and the reel (i mean normal size garden hose).I have been trying to get hold of a tap that would regulate this and then go back into the tank. I've emailed Matt a picture on his link address so he can better understand it.

[matt]

I can't do that Matt. I mean I don't think I can do that. The water must go through the heater or else it won't light. If you know of a way of splitting it after then maybe...

oh sorry

i thought the pump and variflow were after the heater

in that case, after the heater just fit the Y

as i said

1 branch of the Y will go up the pole and the other will return into the water tank ( fit a tap on this pipe, so you can control how much goes back into the tank and thus in turn how much goes up the pole pipe

the flow will still be going through the heater at max, just returning to the tank

[matt]

ive just seen the pics

as the hosepipe comes out of the heater ( just before the hosereel )

just cut it shorter and fit a connection ( looks like you use a hozelock or similar ) fit a Y to this, hoselock make them, then continue 1 of the branches to the hose reel, and the other can return back into the tank ( this needs to have a tap fitted to it to control the flow back into the tank, the slower the flow to the tank, the more the flow up the pole )

very easy to do, a 15 min job, you only need :

3 X hozelock connections
1 X hoselock Y
1 X hoselock flow regulator

ive found some links

regulator

http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/pd5_GARDEN_WATER-EQ_SPRAY-G%5Ba%5DA_6003_REGULATOR-PRESSURE-ONOFF-2190.htm

Y connection

http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/pd5_GARDEN_WATER-EQ_SPRAY-G%5Ba%5DA_5998_CONNECTOR-Y-2293.htm

you will be able to souce these from your local garden specialist

[matt]

oh and if you dont like using hoselock fittings, just go on altec

http://www.altecweb.com

and find the right fittings to fit inside your pipe, then you can fit the fittings inside your pipe and use a jubilee clips over them all ( this will stop any leaks )

[macmac]

Haven't you already got a van MacMac?

So with the ten thousand you put another van on the road. Even you should be able to see the potential of that.

Next case

Yes i do but it's knocking on a bit, not got enough work for two vans, so, please answer my original question-
A 10k investment in my business will acheive me-  ?
What's the cause & what's the effect?

Tony

[matt]

Haven't you already got a van MacMac?

So with the ten thousand you put another van on the road. Even you should be able to see the potential of that.

Next case

Yes i do but it's knocking on a bit, not got enough work for two vans, so, please answer my original question-
A 10k investment in my business will acheive me-  ?
What's the cause & what's the effect?

Tony

it'll cause you to work harder to pay for it, thus the effect will be you will be very tired in the evening and not have much time to post on here