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D.Salkeld_Ltd

  • Posts: 951
Terms and Conditions
« on: February 09, 2008, 09:50:14 am »
Hi Folks,

I have been thinking about publishing Terms and Conditions.

Can anyone give an idea how they should be written for us Window Cleaners?

Thanks

David
Not Perfect - But Honest


SonOfFormby

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 11:09:44 am »
If it is raining when we clean your windows and they do not dry satisfactorily once the rain has stopped, we will return to re-clean the effected window/s. To take advantage of this service you must inform us within 24 hours of the initial clean.
We reserve the right to change our Terms & Conditions without notice.

You might want to change this :P

Lee

D.Salkeld_Ltd

  • Posts: 951
Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 10:10:52 pm »
Thanks for that Chris.

Sorting something out and going to run it by a solicitor.

Any more ideas??

David
Not Perfect - But Honest

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 10:52:19 pm »
Will you put the T&C's on your website, or your "windows cleaned" tickets?

Dean Aspects

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 11:50:28 am »
http://aspectswfp.co.uk/sitemap.aspx


Theres mine if its of any use i have begged stolen and borrowed them from others and adapted for my own use

Dean

Paul Coleman

Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 06:04:34 pm »
Hi Folks,

I have been thinking about publishing Terms and Conditions.

Can anyone give an idea how they should be written for us Window Cleaners?

Thanks

David

Well, the stuff below should give you some ideas as well:


TERMS AND CONDITIONS

Please note the terms and conditions listed are generally not needed but exist only for those rare situations where a problem may occur.
1)   By accepting our quotation you agree to be bound by our terms and conditions.
2)   Cancelling our services must be done in writing (email acceptable) and with confirmation from us that we have received your letter. You will be given a cancellation reference. It is your responsibility to ensure we receive your letter at least 7 days before the next clean is due. We are not responsible for any communication that is lost in the post,
3)   If we arrive to clean your property and you do not require our services then we reserve the right to charge 50% of the price payable for your clean to compensate for travelling costs and time wasted (maximum charge £10).
4)   To clean windows at the rear of your property we need to have access, therefore there should be no locked gates preventing access. We are happy to accept gate keys/padlock keys to enable access or for such keys to be left in a discrete place for our use.  Alternatively, where there is a numbered combination type lock, we will need to be given the access number. 75% of price will be charged if we cannot get access to the rear of the property and we will only clean what is obtainable from the front of your property.
5)   We operate a 12 monthly service throughout the year.  This is at 6 weekly intervals (unless otherwise agreed). This means that we may clean your windows during inclement weather. We reserve the right to decide if the window cleaning services should be carried out. Rain does not affect the quality of your clean. If you or your representative prevents us from cleaning, we reserve the right to charge 50% of the normal cost of the clean to compensate for travelling and time wasted.
6)   If you are not satisfied with our service or cleaning results please contact us within 48 hours from date of clean (08452 333444) and also confirm your complaint in writing. We will rectify to your satisfaction any poor work results at the earliest opportunity (N.B. first cleans are excluded from this). If any complaint is proven to not be as a result of our window cleaning, we reserve the right to charge a call out fee of £10 to cover expenses and time lost. We do not accept responsibility for any complaints that are not made within the required 48 hour time. It is your responsibility to ensure that we receive your letter and that you obtain a reference number from us relating to your complaint.
7)   In the interests of health and safety, we request all small children and pets are kept inside the property we are cleaning or safely enclosed well away from the work area. The work area should be free from any kind of animal excrement.
8.)   We will clean all windows, but any windows that are inaccessible or unsafe will not be cleaned.
9)   In the unlikely event of any accident, we do carry an insurance policy for public liability. Any accident deemed out of our control and as a result of fittings or glass already damaged arising from faulty construction, poorly maintained windows or conservatory roofs will not be accepted and the customer will be liable for any repair or out of pocket expenses.
10)  A risk assessment is carried out before commencing work in order to minimise risks to ourselves, the customer, the general public and their property.
11)   We will not accept liability for water damage to the property or the items therein where the windows have been left open prior to a clean or damage to the window or frame causing leakage into the property.
12)   Any claims must be made in writing and addressed to us within 48 hours of the liability arising. It is your responsibility to ensure that we receive your letter and you obtain a reference number from us relating to your complaint/claim.
13)   Payment for any service provided by us must be made within 14 days from date of clean. Payment can be made either by Cash, Cheque, or Internet Banking.  If late payment exceeds 60 days we reserve the right to make a late payment charge of £5 to compensate for all types of communication required to collect payment. If we are unsuccessful in recovering the outstanding amount due and the amount remains unpaid after 75 days from date of clean we reserve the right to take legal action to recover the debt and any added expense incurred with regards to it.  If two cleans have been carried out without payment, a third clean will not take place until the account is brought up to date.
14)   We collect data from our customers in the form of Name, Address, Telephone Numbers and Email Address. This information is strictly for our own use and to assist in carrying out our services. At no time will your data ever be sold or passed on to third party users. We respect our customers privacy.
15) We will remain polite, courteous, reliable and professional at all times.  If for any reason you feel that we ever  fall below the standards that we set ourselves, please let us know and we will endeavour to resolve the situation.


Although it would not normally be necessary to implement the T and Cs, hopefully it would stop a customer drifting into a messing about phase.

Jon-scwindows

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 06:28:10 pm »
awesome, just what i need!  that will teach them

Blackbushe Windows

  • Posts: 349
Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 06:47:11 pm »
Phew! I'm worn out after reading all that Shiner! Got everything coverd though.

Must sort mine out ;)


Peter
Blackbushe Windows.
Est. 1983
www.blackbushewindows.co.uk

NWH

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 06:52:05 pm »
Might scare a few people that might.

Paul Coleman

Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 07:03:46 pm »
Phew! I'm worn out after reading all that Shiner! Got everything coverd though.

Must sort mine out ;)


Peter

I don't use that version myself.  I do have an abbreviated version somewhere but can't recall which computer folder it's in.  I have it on a backup disc but couldn't be bothered to dig it out.
I didn't intend anyone to use those T and Cs as is.  More a case of pick what you want and leave the rest behind.  I adapted them from T and Cs posted by Trevor Knight BTW, so he's the guy who can take the credit.

Blackbushe Windows

  • Posts: 349
Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 07:15:54 pm »
Good point - pick what you feel most relevant to you and your customers!!

Peter
Blackbushe Windows.
Est. 1983
www.blackbushewindows.co.uk

wightsurf

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 07:20:01 pm »
could'nt you just put your working t & c's on a web site and state where they are to your custies ie. give them a card with the web address on ?

Paul Coleman

Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 07:23:02 pm »
could'nt you just put your working t & c's on a web site and state where they are to your custies ie. give them a card with the web address on ?


I do intend to do that once I've got a site set up.
Remember though, even in this day and age not everyone has or wants internet access.
I usually introduce the T and Cs when I quote.  I have a quotation form on one side and the T and Cs on the back.

D.Salkeld_Ltd

  • Posts: 951
Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 11:36:25 pm »
Thanks Folks,

Some good ideas.  I am now going to draw up MY version and run it by a solicitor.
When they are published I will post them on here.

Thanks
David
Not Perfect - But Honest

D.Salkeld_Ltd

  • Posts: 951
Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2008, 08:49:57 am »
Thanks Folks,

I have got these published now:

http://dsalkeldltd.co.uk/termsadnconditions.aspx

David
Not Perfect - But Honest

brightnclean

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 09:47:00 am »
What's the point in having terms and conditions if you don't mean to adhere to them?

Drop the thing about being messed about. It looks and is unprofessional.

Paul Coleman

Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2008, 10:07:38 am »
What's the point in having terms and conditions if you don't mean to adhere to them?

Drop the thing about being messed about. It looks and is unprofessional.

I assume you are referring to my post further up the page.  Please note that the bit about messing about was an additional comment from me - not actually part of the T & Cs.
Although I would adhere to them if needed, I regard their main purpose is as a preventative measure.  If someone starts messing about even after being issued with T & Cs, my preference would be to not work for them anyway.  I would rather follow the path of least resistance and have a hassle-free or low hassle round than going around having to implement T & Cs on a regular basis.  In fact, a low hassle round is exactly what I have.  I suppose we all evolve our businesses to suit our own personalities.  For instance, I dislike phoning people in advance so I have very little work where I need to do that.  That's not an accident.  I designed it that way.  Other people may find that they need to have a round with a lot of pre-arranging because self-motivation may not be a strong point for them.  Horses for courses I think.

brightnclean

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Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2008, 11:10:29 am »
Sorry Shiner. I wasn't referring to your post. I was referring to David's T&Cs on his site...

Why Terms and conditions?
I have published Terms and Conditions to make clear a few points I believe will help me provide you with a good service.  I do not intend to use these terms and conditions rigidly; they are a safety net in case we get messed around.  Please read them and if there is anything you want to ask please phone me on:


It's almost as though David is apologising for having T&Cs and the wording about getting messed about looks very unprofessional. It's all a bit cap in hand really. I don't mean to be critical for no reason.
A website is your window to the world and it's very important to get the wording etc right.


Paul Coleman

Re: Terms and Conditions
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2008, 11:14:16 am »
Sorry Shiner. I wasn't referring to your post. I was referring to David's T&Cs on his site...

Why Terms and conditions?
I have published Terms and Conditions to make clear a few points I believe will help me provide you with a good service.  I do not intend to use these terms and conditions rigidly; they are a safety net in case we get messed around.  Please read them and if there is anything you want to ask please phone me on:


It's almost as though David is apologising for having T&Cs and the wording about getting messed about looks very unprofessional. It's all a bit cap in hand really. I don't mean to be critical for no reason.
A website is your window to the world and it's very important to get the wording etc right.



No apology necessary.  It's just that mine was the only post that looked like it could have produced your response.  Never occurred to me you were referring to text on the site   :)
I've now viewed that bit of the website and tend to agree with what you have written.  However, it's better than mine as I haven't done one yet   :)