[Grafters Cleaning Services]

not that i've got one (maybe 1 day)
but to those of you that do have one
can you tell me, does using hot water make that much difference and can you really justify the extra cost?

[poleman]

I had a main dealer Hot Water system (Brodex) and I wouldn't waste my money again, yes it does make a small dif but not for the ex cost, end of the day cold pure water works the same - however if some one said do you wont a free ionics thermal system! I wouldn't say no 

Andy 

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

I had a main dealer Hot Water system (Brodex) and I wouldn't waste my money again, yes it does make a small dif but not for the ex cost, end of the day cold pure water works the same - however if some one said do you wont a free ionics thermal system! I wouldn't say no 

Andy 

i think you are probally right there andy
judging by the lack of responses it would suggest that not many of us use them,

i was just wondering wether it being hot would make much difference, ie. imagine washing up the dishes in cold water!

[marc]

but what about washing the dishes in cold pure water ? ha ha

[jonah]

I am really jealous of you guys  I am trad at the moment but would love the high tech gear !

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

but what about washing the dishes in cold pure water ? ha ha

you may have a point there marc

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

I am really jealous of you guys  I am trad at the moment but would love the high tech gear !

keep plugging at it jonah
it will come your way sooner or later

[poleman]

I had a main dealer Hot Water system (Brodex) and I wouldn't waste my money again, yes it does make a small dif but not for the ex cost, end of the day cold pure water works the same - however if some one said do you wont a free ionics thermal system! I wouldn't say no 

Andy 

i think you are probally right there andy
judging by the lack of responses it would suggest that not many of us use them,

i was just wondering wether it being hot would make much difference, ie. imagine washing up the dishes in cold water!

I was shown a demo from Rubin's (sales bloke) when they had there road show in Bournemouth, and it was a hot day and the glass on the ground floor was hot, now normal cold water on hot glass and the water drys quickly, which isn't good as normal needs to dry natural and needs to sheet, however with the ionics thermal pure system the water dried natural because of the heat exchange was the same, so that's the dif I have found, personal I wouldnt spend 10k for the small amount you gain    

[poleman]

If its ok (might not be for some time yet) could I pop over and see your gutter vac in action! I would be grateful, as I might not get to windex this year

Andy   

[Count Phil]

Yeah, but if the hot version was only 300 extra you would add it.

You can DIY it for that price. Not that I have........

[Grafters Cleaning Services]

If its ok (might not be for some time yet) could I pop over and see your gutter vac in action! I would be grateful, as I might not get to windex this year

Andy   

no probs andy, on a sunday perhaps some time?

[Village Gleam]

A thread ran asking for an hot o2 user to post. It was mostly at the top of the list for about two days with me posting heavily on it because I am interested. Not a single legitamate user posted.Eventually someone who'd had a dem and intended to purchase(cold to start) made a comment, this immediatly prompted put down comments.

You haven't done any better.

If you want a serious debate about this kind of thing perhaps this forum isn't the place anymore.

[TennetClean]

Yeah, but if the hot version was only 300 extra you would add it.

You can DIY it for that price

Lol no you couldn't!

Solubility is right, you wont find any helpful answers on here for this, only theories that people have that usually revolve around ridiculous solar panels, impractical gas bottle heaters, and some idea somebody had about making it run through the radiator to heat it up..none of which has ever worked...

[poleman]

If its ok (might not be for some time yet) could I pop over and see your gutter vac in action! I would be grateful, as I might not get to windex this year

Andy   

no probs andy, on a sunday perhaps some time?

That would be great as you dont live to far from me, are catch up with you later in the year 

Andy

[Village Gleam]

Say you did have one Jay. And it was a revelation, pleasant to use because of the flexibility and warmth.Dirt melting off the frames, bird soil gone on the second or third pass, hardly needing to rinse at all. And then there are the customers comments and reactions......the marketing... the money....did I mention the money?

[frames to panes]

I think the hot water post got a slating, because most of us could only see the benifits to the user rather than the customer and so thought the extra expense would be wasted as customers were unlikely to pay a premium to cover the extra cost. After all, they just want clean windows at the end of the day. I can see advantages maybe with heavily soiled conservatory roofs where the heat might dissolve green algae quicker. Unfortunately trying to get a point over tends to start a "heated" argument with anyone who has bought a hot system.

[Wayne Thomas]

I've got a hot system. Will I post about it? Not anymore, don't need the negative comments, thank-you. I'm happy, I'll leave it at that.  If you want to compare hot/cold WFP ask Ionics for a demo.

[frames to panes]

Wise words. Actually i did view the H20 version when i thought i was going to get a large redundancy wad. Would i have payed the extra? Who knows. I reckon it would be handy if you could press a button for a few seconds of steam to blast at the old bird poo if they could make that, you know a bit like the wifes steam iron, a few seconds of puff and away it goes.

[mark dew]

It's a shame that hot wfp users don't post much about the system, but they do have a point. It must be disheartening to take the time to write about a personal experience of it only for people who have never used it to say what's the point and is not neccesary, why bother?
Everyone has an opinion but where experience of using this system should count as the only one, most people would get sidetracked by the naysayers, without knowing who has knowledge and who doesn't.
Fortunately it will change because a couple of years ago it was similar about trad and wfp, then the diy wfp cowboys.
It's very hard sometimes to distinguish the wheat from the chaff on certain topics.

[frames to panes]

Also hard to express an opinion in words without it coming over as being balshy. Thats from both sides of any debate. So what starts out as a discussion tends to spiral downwards.