Mark said this forum is a better place since the WFP over trad, and DIY over factory systems debates have matured. And they have matured (apart from us calling each other liars).
Your original ethos Matt when you started the DIY site was to help any WC get set up WFP on a shoestring budget. I'm sure you helped a lot of people. You helped me.
That was the first wave though, and we are past that. Take the 17'xtel fibreglass telescopic at £65. Why should you need to build a pole? My vikan brush with fan jets is fantastic, what are they twenty five quid?
No one builds there own computers anymore do they? you just buy one. Write your own programmes? why?
What people want now is rainwater harvesting systems, hot systems at affordable prices, electric reels.And more importantly there are other aspects to DIY, such as DIY marketing. Mark Dew doesn't employ a marketing manager, he does it himself. If I can nick an idea off him I will, and I'm sure he'd do the same.
The people slating me as a flash git with an eight page glossy leaflet, super sonic system, and a bloke who needs to 'get real' should realise my leaflet is A5 has two sides and includes a good photo and comment from myself. I don't claim to be honest, or even friendly and reliable, people can see me and make their own mind up.
That's my idea of DIY marketing, paying £140 for 10,000 supplying the copy and a jpeg. I've spent the last year covered in ink printing my own, and this is a much more cost effective option.