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Poll

Now we have seen Jeoff brimble photo how many would attempt that clean

yes
41.9%
31 (41.9%)
no
50%
37 (50%)
only off my ladders
8.1%
6 (8.1%)

Total Members Voted: 70

Voting closed: January 28, 2008, 09:51:13 pm

cvdewsbury

GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« on: January 21, 2008, 09:51:13 pm »
Geoff if I get any enquiries  I,ll pass onto you....GEOFF BRIMBLE THE BIONIC WINDOW CLEANER!!

Wayne Thomas

Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 11:15:02 pm »
Definitely NOT for me. Them supalite poles are too light for my liking at height when it's gusty. Too much like flying a kite. I'll stick to Ionics or Facelift up to 45ft thank-you very much.

NWH

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 11:21:59 pm »
Definitely NOT for me. Them supalite poles are too light for my liking at height when it's gusty. Too much like flying a kite. I'll stick to Ionics or Facelift up to 45ft thank-you very much.
I agree with that,there fine for upto 45ft on a calm day,i wouldn`t want to use one any higher than that.A bad gust of wind with a heavier pole and you might be able to get it back and stop it from going,but with that pole if it were to start to go it would be a simple case of it snapping,being able to control that pole at that height wouldn`t require stregnth more tecnique,that pole of Jeffs would snap cos i`ve had one snap on me at half that height.

Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2008, 07:39:05 am »
Have used a Tuker Pole upto 80 feet but wouldnt do it frequently i really dont think you can have enough control over it at that height

Chris Cottrell

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 07:51:53 am »
I voted Yes, if the need arose that it was a requirement for the job then yes I would do it, although at that height my 1st choice would have been a C/Picker, remember in Geoff's case these had been ruled out for what ever reason

Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 08:03:18 am »
I would give it a go aswell, how you would price that I dont know.

trevor perry

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 08:37:56 am »
yes i would use it at that height it would deffinately be easier than abseiling and a lot more cost effective than a cherrypicker, i do think there are issues with the health and safety not so much the using of the pole but more with the conditions it could be used in, i have used these poles upto 60ft and if there is any wind it is a no go so at 88ft the conditions would have to be very calm and no one can gaurantee such conditions especially when moving round a corner to a different side of building where the conditions can be totally different.
  i think the answer to this is an operative on the roof with a guidline to the top of the pole so that if conditions become bad or the operative on the floor stumbles or looses control at least the pole wont fall on anybody.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Alex Gardiner

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 08:58:15 am »
I wouldn't do it! I think that Jeff has a lot of courage :)

Whilst I am fairly confident about actually being able to set one of my poles up that high, as it is fairly straightforward against a building, I'm not confident that I would be able to satisfy a Health and Safety Inspector that this was a well assessed and controlled risk; obviously Jeff has looked into this and has decided that he can. 

All it will need is one high profile accident at this sort of height for the HSE to step in and start regulating exactly how poles should be used and this would have a knock on effect across the whole of our industry.

I would attempt this job under certain circumstances though, such as:

Permanently blocked off roads, with no vehicles parked within 100ft.
No other workers on site (cherry picker next to pole, etc)
All operatives wearing Hard Hats (the first thing that the HSE would pick on)
A second pole that was attached at about 30ft down from the top and going sideways at an angle of about 20-30 degrees as a support pole, or twin roped lanyards (probably easier).
A third operative to control hoses, water flow etc
A fourth operative to take off/put on sections
A fifth operative to do the same for the support pole.

If all of the above were in place then I would be happy writing out out a valid risk assessment and method statement. To make such a job pay you'd need about £500 per hour to cover all of the operator costs!

sair

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 01:01:32 pm »
 it would be fun and it is!

i regularly work at 75 every month with original superlite pole, confident with pole. main problem at that height is wind
Essentially Pure Ltd

Wayne Thomas

Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 08:39:01 pm »
It's easy cleaning at height in calm weather conditions. It's when you have them lightweight poles high up against a building and then you move around  the corner of the building into a sideways wind/gust. That's when the hazard of light weight poles is in a league of it's own.
At least with an Ionics or Facelift or similar type heavier pole, it is more controllable to recover from a sudden gust high above. At ground level there may not feel like much of a breeze because other buildings in the vacinity shelter the pole from the wind.
Once you start going 4storeys upwards there is normally very few buildings around to shelter the top of your pole from being taken with the wind despite it feeling calm from ground level holding the pole.
It is an unseen danger that WFP users need to take into account when working at height.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 10:01:50 pm »
Left this topic alone. But whatever pole you use you have to take wind into consideration. But at least you aint going to have the ladder and yourself blown sideways when your up it.

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 02:40:26 pm »
i got reinforced maver poles that alex gardiner strenghened that will do the same height.......but i aint got any contracts to test em out......so i will stick to the 60 feet jobs for now......just waiting for the fone to ring.......hello this is the empire state building and we were wondering if you can come and do our windows with your pole. 8)

peter holley

Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2008, 02:45:26 pm »
what u doing on here scrimman?

it's me taffy, with my new name ;D

HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy)

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2008, 02:49:54 pm »
yo taffy....lol hows it going ya mad sheep chasing valley hiker?..........just fot i would drop in and check out wot this place is about......seems ok......i heard that newbies get a welcome pack including a new pole and pump...is that true?....and when can i expect it..... ::)

peter holley

Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2008, 03:26:12 pm »
yo taffy....lol hows it going ya mad sheep chasing valley hiker?..........just fot i would drop in and check out wot this place is about......seems ok......i heard that newbies get a welcome pack including a new pole and pump...is that true?....and when can i expect it..... ::)
lol.... it,s very posh :o

NWH

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Re: GEOFF BRIMBLES AMAZING 88foot POLE ....POLL
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2008, 08:58:57 pm »
Taffy have you been on Bernards site lately.