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jikwan

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jeffB jets
« on: December 07, 2007, 05:16:00 pm »
jeff arent you still using garden plant sprayers as jets?
the fan jets i use give a very uneven erattic fan spray
very uneven
are the garden fanjets   do they give an even coverage?
must be a very fine spray
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2007, 05:22:16 pm »
I use a low pressure low flow system. To get a good fan you need good pressure.
 I still have ott brush sprays using the hozelock jets, but now use only pencils which just hit the top edges of the brush bristles.

jikwan

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2007, 06:00:59 pm »
im imagining these garden jets are inbetween
a conventional fanjet and fine mist plant sprayer
get 4 in line and these guys must fully cover anything that comes their way
possibly the ultimate jet
ive 100psi pump   should handlle 6 or more
im checking before i invest in these things
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2007, 06:07:35 pm »





Jeff,have you ever used auto car jets recommended by Joe Gormonley?
I use either a single or dual outlet depending on what water amount I need.
I use a universal type,difficult to get hold of but worth it in the end.Some
Are fixed some are adjustable.Do a `google` search,they are on there.
L. Doubtfire
Window Cleaner

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2007, 06:54:40 pm »
Hi Lewis,
Joes Volvo windscreen twin jets sound great, no I have been too busy setting my car on fire trying to make a hot system  ;D (joke) I like the idea of fine adjustment of  them with a pin though.
Jikwan, the sprays are yellow head irrigation and spray 360 degrees, I used to use them through the head, then used green or blue pencils. Now I make my own out of "Goof" plugs by drilling small holes between 1/32 to 2mm depending on how many I use (currently 4. They are a hole repair solution for the larger Hozelock  irrigation pipes approx £4 for 10,put micro irrigation into google. Yes 6 will produce lots of water.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2007, 07:02:41 pm »
Jikwan, I remember you were interested in cill brushes, theres an unusual one on page 2 of this old brush topic. (sorry forbidden link)

jikwan

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2007, 07:11:35 pm »
cant access either of your links
must be blocked for some reason
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2007, 07:17:24 pm »
Blocked forum  :'( Too big a topic to move and I dont have the pics on there anymore, email me for the links. I will edit that post

jikwan

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 08:53:03 pm »
im a member of that forum a few days already
yes interesting
didnt like the pic of your 4 penciljets   like trying to drill a hole into the glass
if i understood it correctly......you tried (or maybe still doing)-removed 2nd row
bristles (from the top) inserted jets in that space and angled them to hit the top row?
is that your current method?
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

jikwan

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 09:12:58 pm »
the more i think of it the better i like it
using fanjets would give an even distribution and lessen any chance of water penetrating through the bristles
there must be some way of maufacturing them

take a thickish solid plastic bar   drill right size hole   cut a line on the top of it
there needs to be a substantial wall thicknes
theres a fanjet
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 09:27:26 pm »
Most suppliers sell brass fan jets, many cut/pull the middle row of the brush bristles out to accomodate the fans. Diy ones dont usually have the finesse to give a neat spray pattern.
No not my current method I go ott will take a pic tomorrow, but its pencils and u want fans ?

jikwan

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2007, 09:21:16 am »
im using 2 fans at both ends 1 pencil in the middle
right hand side feed tube is devided by i pencil 1 fan
that way i cover the space in the middle

im looking for a jet that will truly give a fan effect without having to
pump a lot of water through it to get that effect

conventional fans,when you pump just a little water throgh
give a penciljet effect
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2007, 10:50:25 am »
You will need high pressure and 1mm fans (or less) the high pressure will also deliver the water when the brush is tilted left or right when gravity can rob the higher jet.
Good luck I never found a fan that did itb for me.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2007, 04:06:48 pm »
Jikwan, heres my current method, drill 4 holes parallel with the bristles, the outer ones angled to the brush edge. Push through the hose and pushfit the goof plugs. Notice the chamfered ends of the brushes, allows more splay. The water jets just over the top of the bristles but when put on the glass with a slight pressure the bristles splay and you can choose whether to rinse or scrub. Blue brush is the new Bentley.


jikwan

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2007, 05:09:47 pm »
looks impressive
needs some accurate drilling otherwise jetspray  could go in any direction
if it does   drill oversize hole   use araldite
i never got accurate with my drilling
i guess a drill press is neccessary

so for rinsing you just leave topmost bristles on glass as you go down
it should dam the flow and give an even horizontal line of water?
Zen is the art of seeing everything.....noticing nothing

Jeff Brimble

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Re: jeffB jets
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2007, 05:13:23 pm »
Q"so for rinsing you just leave topmost bristles on glass as you go down
it should dam the flow and give an even horizontal line of water?"

Never thought of it like that but yes, wouldnt say it was even just a flow.