[Davew]

Just wondered 'cos when the light catches your stream it is suprising the amount of vapour drifting about.

[Village Gleam]

If my bottle is near the rear door would that do?

If not who would do a gas locker conversion?

This looks to me like some kind of compliance with a british standard, but i did notice that even the wiley usa wfp user gave a cagey responce.

[Jeff Brimble]

Wayne, what quantity of water do you heat using the immersion ?

Any one know where to get the old style 2" immersions rarther than the 2 1/2" ones ?

[Village Gleam]

Running pure water through old radiators painted black? Black hose pipe's to catch the sun? Free energy from the engine block?Running pure through solar panels?
You are bonkers, and have clouded a sensible disscusion with marginal alternative therapy type hogwash.
My conclusions from this thread are.

An lpg on demand system is the superior method with lower capitol and running costs and better results.

An lpg conversion may be necessary.
An outside flue is reqiured.
Any installation must be done by a corgi qualified engineer.

[Nathanael Jones]

Running pure water through old radiators painted black? Black hose pipe's to catch the sun? Free energy from the engine block?Running pure through solar panels?
You are bonkers, and have clouded a sensible disscusion with marginal alternative therapy type hogwash.
My conclusions from this thread are.

An lpg on demand system is the superior method with lower capitol and running costs and better results.

An lpg conversion may be necessary.
An outside flue is reqiured.
Any installation must be done by a corgi qualified engineer.

I have to disagree. Not only is using solar panels etc environmentally responsible and surprisingly effective, its also a great marketing ploy and will bring you lots of new customers.
I personally think you will still need an "on demand" heater as well in many circumstances, but it won't have to do half as much work.
My personal plans include rainwater harvesting, solar pre-heating and a diesel "on demand" heater.

[Davew]

Surely an on demand system as used in a caravan/motorhome does the same job or could be adapted? just throw a switch when needed and only use hot when nessessary. The customer won't know what temperature your water is (especially if they are out). Then you have the advantage of marketing a hot system and probably only use it 5% of the time. Very cheap then.

[Nathanael Jones]

The caravan showers are very easy to install and use, and fully thermostatic. The disadvantage is that most of them cut out after 20 minutes of use as a built in safety feature!

[Davew]

But who runs their water for twenty minutes - don't they flair up when the tap is opened and shut off when the flow is turned off?

[Nathanael Jones]

Yep, the heater switches on automatically when the water starts, and then turns off when the water stops. But my main interest in a hot system would be for 1st cleans and cladding cleans,... where I'd be going for a lot more than 20 minutes at a time! You can get a propane powered caravan shower for about £60 + shipping off ebay USA, you just need to add a flue kit (Or leave your van open while its switched on!). They run off 2 "D" batteries, so you don't even need to worry about electrical's,.. just the gas installation!

[Davew]

Have a look at Concept2o's web site and you can see the flue going up through the van roof.


http://www.concept2o-franchise.co.uk/contribution.htm

[windowwashers]

But who runs their water for twenty minutes - don't they flair up when the tap is opened and shut off when the flow is turned off?

I have had water going for well over an hour without stopping on a commercial job

[ned]

The Omnipole one holds 20 litres in the heater and flairs up as the temp drop, thermostat controlled coming out of van temp was 38 running throught 100 metres of mirco 28  seems hot enough for the job

[Wayne Thomas]

Wayne, what quantity of water do you heat using the immersion ?

Any one know where to get the old style 2" immersions rarther than the 2 1/2" ones ?

Jeff:

I can heat 75 litres of water that is stored in my calorifier tank using the built in immersion heater.

[Wayne Thomas]

Running pure water through old radiators painted black? Black hose pipe's to catch the sun? Free energy from the engine block?Running pure through solar panels?
You are bonkers, and have clouded a sensible disscusion with marginal alternative therapy type hogwash.
My conclusions from this thread are.

An lpg on demand system is the superior method with lower capitol and running costs and better results.

An lpg conversion may be necessary.


An outside flue is reqiured.
Any installation must be done by a corgi qualified engineer.

Running almost pure water through radiators painted black or through solar water panels and then through DI bottles into your insulated static storage tank which can be transfered into your van mount is not mad.

How do you think people with swimming pools heat them up? Certainly not with a diesel or LPG heater as they would end up penniless and skint. 

I suggested a few good ideas which I use myself in the summer to make the most use of the sun and after initial set up costs (i.e. some cheap solar water panels, or paint some radiators black, or a very long length of black hose left in the sun and connect it after your RO but before your DI bottles) it's a DIY route that others on here can use affordably without any running costs involved.

You can slag me off all you want as it doesn't offend me as I like a chuckle but my van mount tank contains warmish water (during the summer) from transfering water from my static tank so I don't need to heat my water as much to get to the desired temperature that you would need to using your heater.

Mr Solubility I look forward to your next constructive critism

[Davew]

But who runs their water for twenty minutes - don't they flair up when the tap is opened and shut off when the flow is turned off?

I have had water going for well over an hour without stopping on a commercial job

Don't you turn your flow off between windows then?

[windowwashers]

But who runs their water for twenty minutes - don't they flair up when the tap is opened and shut off when the flow is turned off?

I have had water going for well over an hour without stopping on a commercial job

Don't you turn your flow off between windows then?

if I move yes, if they are hundereds of windows Infront of me I just clean clean clean

[Village Gleam]

Where do you get black hose from? do you have to spread it over the lawn to catch the sun and then collect it in later? the old black painted radiators where do you site them? the old solar panels, is the water still pure when it has been through them?
Then it sits in your ibc tank, how long for?doesn't it chill?

Hot water at point of delivery is the criteria, nothing else matters, and these ideas are batty.

[windowwashers]

Where do you get black hose from? do you have to spread it over the lawn to catch the sun and then collect it in later? the old black painted radiators where do you site them? the old solar panels, is the water still pure when it has been through them?
Then it sits in your ibc tank, how long for?doesn't it chill?

Hot water at point of delivery is the criteria, nothing else matters, and these ideas are batty.

Mr Solubility
why did you change your name ?

I have been wondering why you feel the need to swipe at me, am even more confused as I knwo know who you are 

[Village Gleam]

I'm confused too, where's the swipe?

I never doubted you knew me.

[windowwashers]

I'm confused too, where's the swipe?

I never doubted you knew me.

Oh trust me I did not know, and the swipes look abck at your posts to me m8, i dont mind i take all on board makes me a stronger person