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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Hot water system
« Reply #100 on: November 24, 2007, 07:41:44 pm »
Well done I like simple.
What temperature at the brush do you prefer to work with Wayne.

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #101 on: November 24, 2007, 07:43:24 pm »
This is turning into a very hot and interesting thread. You explained your set up very well Wayne although i couldn't follow all of it. Any chance of any pictures?

This is teamwork. I'm not very practical but i do have a grasp of the marketing.If you want to build a round of upper echeleon customers at break neck speed then strap yourself in and hit the belief button

Does anyone actually know how the concept02 system works. The point about the minimum flow rate is fine, i work with a high flow rate and because the water is hot it simply means fewer strokes and less effort, that parts a no brainer.I believe it use's an infinity26i heater, but where is this in the system/ where is the fuel located and how do you refeul? what advice is given on insurance?

From what I understand they are expensive to buy but once you've got one the running costs are very low, and they work brilliantly.


Captain Scarlet

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Re: Hot water system
« Reply #102 on: November 24, 2007, 07:45:29 pm »
the concept 2o works by giving your vehicle an lpg conversion but instead it just powers the heater, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #103 on: November 24, 2007, 07:49:20 pm »
Good to see you talking to me Luke.

So you mean it's got one of those tanks they use in lpg cars fitted and you can fill up at the garage?

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Hot water system
« Reply #104 on: November 24, 2007, 07:57:41 pm »
yes, it goes in the spare wheel place, but it must fill up somewhere else! I spoke to them a few weeks ago about it, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

matt

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #105 on: November 24, 2007, 08:01:25 pm »
if the lpg just powers the heater, you might aswell just use a lpg gas bottle

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #106 on: November 24, 2007, 08:08:18 pm »
Now you're talking to  me too Matt, this is great. You are more practical than me.

I  didn't know about the lpg conversion(thanks Luke), this must cost money rather than just using a gas bottle, so is there a chance that there might be a reason for it such as health and safety, legal complaince, or an uninsurable risk?

Are you allowed to carry gas bottles Matt? Roofers and blacksmiths and many others do I know, I wonder what the ground rules are?

How much would an LPG conversion cost?( to power a heater)

Captain Scarlet

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Re: Hot water system
« Reply #107 on: November 24, 2007, 08:09:32 pm »
I would say around 700-1000 for the conversion, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

matt

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #108 on: November 24, 2007, 08:10:32 pm »
It was me  who suggested it on here in the first place under the name of Easy Clean :)

 :)

i was sure i hadnt dreamt it ;)


Wayne Thomas

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #109 on: November 24, 2007, 08:15:17 pm »
Well done I like simple.
What temperature at the brush do you prefer to work with Wayne.

Hello Jeff:

I like to work with water between 25 to 40 as a rule but I make exceptions like when it's freezing like this morning the sills were covered in a layer of ice so not too warm.

In the summer I like it hot as I can manage. I transfer the water from my static through 3 solar water panels (which I bought off ebay cheap), into my van so my water is warm before I've even started to circulate the water from my calorifier.

Another tip is: in the summer when I'm cleaning large properties that take at least an hour or two, I connect large black hose between my hosereel and my waterfed pole but make sure it lays in the sun the whole time I'm working so the sun aids in the heating of my water (free of charge). As you know Black absorbs heat from the sun but quickly loses it in the shade & Silver reflects and retains heat which is why teapots and insulation materials are silver.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: Hot water system
« Reply #110 on: November 24, 2007, 08:31:56 pm »
Taking heat from the vehicle is a great idea,... pity 95% of my work is within 2 miles of my house, so it wouldn't do much for me.  :( :'(
Glad to know ppl have tried it and it works that well though!

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Hot water system
« Reply #111 on: November 24, 2007, 08:32:38 pm »
I am preheating my water to 35-40 on our house storage radiators aint tried the solars yet, cheers.

Wayne Thomas

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #112 on: November 24, 2007, 08:39:47 pm »
In the summer you can paint some old radiators black, leave them on a garage roof or against a fence or something where the sun beats down on them and link them inline after your DI container to your insulated static tank then transfer warm, not cold water into your van mount tank :)

matt

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #113 on: November 24, 2007, 08:42:26 pm »
LESS THAN FOUR cylinders are to be carried:

    * Cylinders should be loaded in a single layer and secured to prevent movement.
    * The cylinders must be upright.
    * Flammable gas danger warning diamonds should be displayed at the rear and on both sides of the van.
    * carry a dry powder extinguisher

matt

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #114 on: November 24, 2007, 08:45:02 pm »
seriously

a LPG job just for a heater is a massive waste of money

you could even fit a gas locker for alot less

Wayne Thomas

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #115 on: November 24, 2007, 08:45:42 pm »
LESS THAN FOUR cylinders are to be carried:

    * Cylinders should be loaded in a single layer and secured to prevent movement.
    * The cylinders must be upright.
    * Flammable gas danger warning diamonds should be displayed at the rear and on both sides of the van.
    * carry a dry powder extinguisher

I learnt something tonight as I use to display the flammable diamond warning signs on the front and rear of my van. I didn't realise you had to display them on the sides.

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #116 on: November 24, 2007, 08:53:58 pm »
What's a gas locker?

Davew

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #117 on: November 24, 2007, 08:57:41 pm »
Just a thought, but does warm water encourage legionares desease?

matt

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #118 on: November 24, 2007, 09:05:36 pm »
What's a gas locker?

its a hole cut in your van, you fit a locker ( with door ) , the door is outside the van and its vented outside


Wayne Thomas

Re: Hot water system
« Reply #119 on: November 24, 2007, 09:09:54 pm »
Just a thought, but does warm water encourage legionares desease?

Yes if stored unused, in the right conditions to grow. You can sterilise the water by passing it through ultra violet light, (I think that's right). You can buy a chamber which the water passes through which sterilises the water. Legionaires disease is  harmful if passed as fine droplets carried in the wind. A lot is known about Legionaires disease but little is known about Legionaires whilst working with WFP, as this method of cleaning is still relatively new especially regarding hot water use.