[stuartb]

About to buy my pole system and I just wondered how you cope with the hose straddling across the pavment and pedestrians and customers potentially tripping over it? Can this be a real problem?
Cheers
Stuart

[windowwashers]

About to buy my pole system and I just wondered how you cope with the hose straddling across the pavment and pedestrians and customers potentially tripping over it? Can this be a real problem?
Cheers
Stuart

Make sure you have trip hazard signs is the simplae answer for that
Can take a pic of mine if you want to see one, I also have about 6 others, when you get them make sure you get good ones as the cheap ones just blow over

[poleman]

Use you judgement? if there is to much foot traffic then don't put a hose out, use a backpack! if OK then put cones out

Andy

[Dean Aspects]

Their are many measures you can take like using mini/microbore hose that is usually bright yellow so is highly visable
Place the hose out of the way of people the best you can and use warning signs

Dean

[windowwashers]

Use you judgement? if there is to much foot traffic then don't put a hose out, use a backpack! if OK then put cones out

Andy

I uses hoses where ever, I have signs people tend to croos the road or do a weird shuffle

[Sir Squeaky]

Unless it's upstairs job, don't use wfp at all.

It's quicker and easier to squeegee shops.

[windowwashers]

Unless it's upstairs job, don't use wfp at all.

It's quicker and easier to squeegee shops.

Sry squeaks to reply to every post but I disagree sometimes and have to add my thoughts, do everything wfp, I have shops and they are way quicker with wfp, one window maybe not, then again I go for bif jobs not small.

do only upstairs wfp as IMO you are telling the customer you are not 100% sure about what you are doing (going to get stick for saying that, but then I say what I think and thats it)

GO WFP DO WFP not sure about it, dont do it, a half hearted business is not a good business to be in.

[jeff1]

You can see my hose protected by the rubber, its the type you see at temporary traffic lights by LUX, I just cut the channel wider so my hose fitted.
I only use it across footpaths if its a busy area.

[windowwashers]

You can see my hose protected by the rubber, its the type you see at temporary traffic lights by LUX, I just cut the channel wider so my hose fitted.
I only use it across footpaths if its a busy area.

Jeff, where do you get that from, or should I not ask, I need some of this asap.

cheers

Ian

[Sir Squeaky]

It's quicker and easier to squeegee shops.

Sry squeaks to reply to every post but I disagree sometimes and have to add my thoughts, do everything wfp, I have shops and they are way quicker with wfp, one window maybe not, then again I go for bif jobs not small.

Nah, sorry.
Only if you're crap with a squeegee.

Trad:
Clean window, grab bucket, walk for a few seconds to next window, clean window.

WFP:
Get out of van, pull brush and hose out, clean window, put brush and hose back in again, get back in van, drive to next job avoiding traffic, get out, pull hose and brush out, finally clean next shop.

By then I've done 3 or 4!
No contest, sorry.
And it leaves a clean shiny dry shop and not a wet mess!

[windowwashers]

It's quicker and easier to squeegee shops.

Sry squeaks to reply to every post but I disagree sometimes and have to add my thoughts, do everything wfp, I have shops and they are way quicker with wfp, one window maybe not, then again I go for bif jobs not small.

Nah, sorry.
Only if you're crap with a squeegee.

Trad:
Clean window, grab bucket, walk for a few seconds to next window, clean window.

WFP:
Get out of van, pull brush and hose out, clean window, put brush and hose back in again, get back in van, drive to next job avoiding traffic, get out, pull hose and brush out, finally clean next shop.

By then I've done 3 or 4!
No contest, sorry.
And it leaves a clean shiny dry shop and not a wet mess!

Sqeaks you most be gwetting old m8, I am very quick with a sqeegee.

if you do top wfp downs trad, IMO it gives mixed messages to your customers, I seem to remember you had problems with your customers about wfp could be worng, if you did this is the reason, I have been timing the time wfp against blading, wfp is quicker as you do all the frame.

Trad  do you clean all the frame down stairs??

[matt]

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do only upstairs wfp as IMO you are telling the customer you are not 100% sure about what you are doing (going to get stick for saying that, but then I say what I think and thats it)

GO WFP DO WFP not sure about it, dont do it, a half hearted business is not a good business to be in.

here we go again  : :

if you do WFP just upstairs you can keep the customer happy with your system and your not running a half hearted business

a rather unimpformed comment, a comment that other might take at face value and feel they MUST do WFP up and down , which is just wrong, many people do WFP up and trad down, they use the WFP as a safe way to clean upstairs windows, nothing wrong in that

[Sir Squeaky]

It's quicker and easier to squeegee shops.

Sry squeaks to reply to every post but I disagree sometimes and have to add my thoughts, do everything wfp, I have shops and they are way quicker with wfp, one window maybe not, then again I go for bif jobs not small.

Nah, sorry.
Only if you're crap with a squeegee.

Trad:
Clean window, grab bucket, walk for a few seconds to next window, clean window.

WFP:
Get out of van, pull brush and hose out, clean window, put brush and hose back in again, get back in van, drive to next job avoiding traffic, get out, pull hose and brush out, finally clean next shop.

By then I've done 3 or 4!
No contest, sorry.
And it leaves a clean shiny dry shop and not a wet mess!

Sqeaks you most be gwetting old m8, I am very quick with a sqeegee.

if you do top wfp downs trad, IMO it gives mixed messages to your customers, I seem to remember you had problems with your customers about wfp could be worng, if you did this is the reason, I have been timing the time wfp against blading, wfp is quicker as you do all the frame.

Trad  do you clean all the frame down stairs??

I don't do tops only.

I was talking about shops, which seemed to be the topic, as he was talking about pedestrians.

On shops trad is miles quicker because of the long process as I described above.
It also looks better.

[twt]

funny how when some people have been wfp only  a couple of months they become experts on it and tell everyone else how hey should be doing it
.

[windowwashers]

It's quicker and easier to squeegee shops.

Sry squeaks to reply to every post but I disagree sometimes and have to add my thoughts, do everything wfp, I have shops and they are way quicker with wfp, one window maybe not, then again I go for bif jobs not small.

Nah, sorry.
Only if you're crap with a squeegee.

Trad:
Clean window, grab bucket, walk for a few seconds to next window, clean window.

WFP:
Get out of van, pull brush and hose out, clean window, put brush and hose back in again, get back in van, drive to next job avoiding traffic, get out, pull hose and brush out, finally clean next shop.

By then I've done 3 or 4!
No contest, sorry.
And it leaves a clean shiny dry shop and not a wet mess!

Sqeaks you most be gwetting old m8, I am very quick with a sqeegee.

if you do top wfp downs trad, IMO it gives mixed messages to your customers, I seem to remember you had problems with your customers about wfp could be worng, if you did this is the reason, I have been timing the time wfp against blading, wfp is quicker as you do all the frame.

Trad  do you clean all the frame down stairs??

I don't do tops only.

I was talking about shops, which seemed to be the topic, as he was talking about pedestrians.

On shops trad is miles quicker because of the long process as I described above.
It also looks better.

shops yes can be quicker, depending on the size of the shop though.
i must have misread soewhere thought you said you do top only (and miss the top of frame out (my mistake for the first bit)

One point why does trad look better, I think wfp look far more professional. so do people I work for cleaning.

[windowwashers]

funny how when some people have been wfp only  a couple of months they become experts on it and tell everyone else how hey should be doing it
.

if that was aimed at me, I am no way an expert, and I have been a month nearly, I just see every day the results, the errors, that I do also the guy that works for me do, so to many I do know quite a bit, I did know alot about certain parts before I started, but everyday I learn new things.

I never tell people to do it my way, I give my opinion, and for some this is an asset, post that give nothing are a waste of time IMO

[Jeff Brimble]

This topic goes back to 2005 but arguments are  still valid and it applies to all the highway not just the pavements, its over on pros in the A-Z section under Trip hazards by Tom Farr heres the direct link- Its a 3 page topic. http://www.another forum.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb2.2/YaBB.pl?num=1129901650/ Hmm still blocked by admin so you will have to make your own way there, if anyones interested I could copy and paste the whole 3 pages 

[Sir Squeaky]

One point why does trad look better, I think wfp look far more professional. so do people I work for cleaning.

Oh come off it.  :
You surely aren't serious?

You do a shop and leave it covered in wet spots and a big puddle on the pavement.
I'll do one and leave it sparkling and perfectly see-through with no puddles.

Hmmm...which one looks better?

Don't get caught in the hype.
It's a great tool, it's faster on upstairs windows, and it's easier usually.

It's not tidier on presentation though.
It's not the be all and end all.

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

Shops WFP:

Start 07:30.
Don Backpack.
Grab small pole.

Wash,Wash,wash. Rinse, rinse, rinse........Next shop.

Do about 7  small shop fronts in half hour.

By 09:00 when they open theres hardly any noticeable droplets on them.

David

[Paul Coleman]

About to buy my pole system and I just wondered how you cope with the hose straddling across the pavment and pedestrians and customers potentially tripping over it? Can this be a real problem?
Cheers
Stuart

I have a piece of half inch hose attached to the van mount (or van DI unit).  This piece of hose is cut so that it's usually long enough to span the footpath.  I then lay rubber matting over it.  I connect the other end up to the hosereel that I've removed from the van.  Doing it this way allows me to be in attendance until I've made the situation safe. I used to have a much shorter piece of hose to patch between tank and reel.  I used to pull the hose out as far as I needed it THEN cover the hose with rubber matting.  However, by doing it that way, I had to pull the hose out before covering it which meant there was a brief time when the hose was uncovered and unattended.